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Author: | Sprockett [ Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:25 pm ] |
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OK someone has to know about this, on the ASIA ad it shows a side dot that has a white circle with black in it, WHERE DO I FIND THOSE!!!!! I gotta gotta gotta have some, I have 2 guitars that those would look KILLER on.. ![]() -Paul- |
Author: | Jeff Doty [ Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:28 pm ] |
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Paul, I saw that too, and thought it was very cool looking. Jeff |
Author: | Steve Kinnaird [ Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:22 pm ] |
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Paul, you could easily make your own. Inlay a short piece of tubing, then fill the cavity with black goo. I've made a few sets of bridge pins that way. Brass tubing looks good. At first. I've never been able to keep it from eventually turning green. Aluminum tubing, polished to a high luster, will look nice under lacquer and stay that way. |
Author: | Brock Poling [ Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:29 pm ] |
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Also, Gold tubing and Platinum tubing is available from jewelry supply houses and is actually decently inexpensive. |
Author: | Sprockett [ Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:01 pm ] |
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I'd like to know who built that guitar so I can quiz them... I would rather buy than make them... I'll keep looking... Thanks -Paul- |
Author: | PaulB [ Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:17 pm ] |
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lollypop sticks filled with colored epoxy. |
Author: | Pwoolson [ Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:20 pm ] |
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Ah, yes, I remember the product called "lollies" that were a truly retched sucker but had a straw-like stick made of dense plastic instead of that paper product. You could chew on that stick for hours... I think that would be a good route but seams a little big for side dots. |
Author: | Brock Poling [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:06 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Sprockett]I would rather buy than make them...[/QUOTE] Seriously. I have done this several times, both as side dots and as fingerboard dots. It really works best on an ebony board. It is very easy to do. Just poke the rod down in the hole, pack the interior tight with ebony dust, wick in some water thin CA and level. I sometimes worry that the dots on the fingerboard will tarnish in time, but I found that Rio Grande supply sells gold and platinum hollow tubing of various diameters. You can buy it in pieces as short as 6" and it is surprisingly reasonable.... 6" goes a long way. Try it in some scrap with aluminum or brass and you will see what I mean... it is very easy, and I think it is a very classy look. |
Author: | Harald Lane [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:28 am ] |
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Hi Sprockett! I use for this small Aluminium and Brass Tubings with 2mm and 2,5mm Diameter. Insidediameter is 1,2 and 1,5mm. For the cap use epoxy with color. Gives a classy touch to the guitar. |
Author: | Sprockett [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:25 am ] |
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Ok you guys win, I'll go by the hobby shop tonight and pick some tubes up ![]() I'm working on an 'Experimental' guitar based on the Olson SJ body, with a cedar top, cedar bracing, cedar lining and walnut back and sides and this seemed like a perfect fit for it ![]() Thanks.. -Paul- |
Author: | HankMauel [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:19 am ] |
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You can also "fit" shell dots inside the tubing, available at hobby shops as mentioned. I have done this several time on both the side and face of the fingerboard. Aluminum, brass and copper are nice, but the gold and silver from Rio Grande will be "upscale". |
Author: | Pwoolson [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:29 am ] |
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anyone got a link to the tubes at Rio Grand. I think I found the site but couldn't find any tubes. |
Author: | Brock Poling [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:29 am ] |
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No. Rio Grande is kind of weird to buy from. I ultimately sprung for a catalog for $10. It was a good investment... there is a lot of neat stuff in there. I might be able to copy the pages from the book and then fax them to you if you want. That way you could avoid the hassle of getting the catalog. Or... tell me what you think you are interested in and I can dig up a part number and price for you. |
Author: | Steve Kinnaird [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:39 am ] |
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[QUOTE=HankMauel] You can also "fit" shell dots inside the tubing, available at hobby shops as mentioned. I have done this several time on both the side and face of the fingerboard. [/QUOTE] Hank's right. This is a classy look called--in violin circles--a Parisian eye. I've used silver tubing in bridge pins with a little 1.5mm pearl dot. Really an elegant look. Got the dots from Rescue Pearl. As for the tubing tarnishing on the fretboard (or bridge pins), at least they aren't covered over w/ finish. They can easily be rubbed back to a nice shine. But for the side of a fretboard I'd go for silver or plutonium. |
Author: | Brock Poling [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:16 am ] |
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I think Plutonium might make you glow in the dark and get you in trouble with the homeland security guys. ![]() Even silver oxidizes... I would probably use platinum for the silver look that isn't under finish. |
Author: | John Mayes [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:45 am ] |
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hahaha.. I bet his spell checker got him on that one.. that is funny though.... |
Author: | Sprockett [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:24 am ] |
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Brock how much are the silver tubes?? I'm in kind of a hurry with this one, I don't need much and what sizes? If you could just list the part numbers I will call them and get some ordered... Thanks -Paul- |
Author: | Sprockett [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:57 am ] |
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Paul what is the link you found?? the one I see doesn't look like a business... I'll order a catalog if someone has a number... Thanks -Paul- |
Author: | Brock Poling [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:00 pm ] |
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I will get it for you in the morning. My catalog is at the office... |
Author: | Sprockett [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:03 pm ] |
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Thanks Brock it's much appreciated, I have a class with Harry Fleishman next month and I need to get this guitar done for that class.... -Paul- |
Author: | Brock Poling [ Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:24 am ] |
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Here you go... a few options. Silver. 0.D. .064" I.D. .044" 6 piece minimum (12" each) price $1.75 each. #100-902 (This seems a little big to me, but it is the smallest silver in the catalog) *** Gold. O.D. .048" I.D. .032" 2 piece minimum (12") $25.81 each #600-704 If you want silver, you might ask them if they have white gold in the same parameters as the yellow gold. Sometimes I have found items that are not listed in the catalog simply by asking. Also, if you go with gold (and since they are $25 each, you might be able to go in with someone to take the second piece off your hands). |
Author: | Sprockett [ Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:23 am ] |
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Thanks Brock... Do you have their number Brock, I'll have my wife call them today and order some of that silver and see if they have the white gold. Cheers -Paul- |
Author: | Brock Poling [ Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:51 am ] |
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duh.... sorry... 800.545.6566 |
Author: | Pwoolson [ Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:04 am ] |
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Davis, I'd like to go in with you if you want to sell off some of what you get. Let me know Woolson |
Author: | Brock Poling [ Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:15 am ] |
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There are also some little hollow square ones that might be cool if you rocked them up on their sides and make them into a diamond orientation.... but cutting the wholes for them might not be much fun... Let me know if you are interested and I can get you a part number for those too. |
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