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Author:  LanceK [ Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:31 am ]
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My Space is one that Im aware of.
Author:  RobLak [ Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:52 am ]
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Hesh - Most computers would have (and all should have...) a default player built in (windows media player, real player, etc.).

You just need to post the file so they can download it. Nuthin fancy about it.

If they need a player they can download one at many free software sites... E.G. Tucows.com

TuCows.com Search for wav player


Rob

Oh, and nice to see ya back!
Author:  RobLak [ Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:55 am ]
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and....

Wasn't there a place HERE to post files like that?

Doesn't the MP3 library work? I am sure if you can post MP3 files you should be able to post .wav files...

Author:  Brock Poling [ Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:13 pm ]
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[QUOTE=RobLak]Wasn't there a place HERE to post files like that?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, we had to close that off. Hackers were causing trouble with the file upload too. To combat this we had to limit the type of file extensions uploaded.
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:59 pm ]
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Hesh, I don't know if you can post wav files because they are so large.  You can get a product from Real called Real Producer Basic that is free that will convert a wav to an rp3 file that will play automatically.  I bet you have something on your computer that will convert to an mp3 which will also play, and is compressed enough for internet playability.  I was looking at our album wav files for my guitar ensemble, and each file is between 18 and 50 MB in size. Mp3's for the same songs are between 1.5 and 4 MB, still not small but smaller than the wav files.
Author:  bob_connor [ Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:28 pm ]
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How big are the WAV files Hesh?

If you can email them to me I'll stick them on my web server and you can link to that.

Cheers
Author:  James Orr [ Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:36 pm ]
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Hesh, I'm interested in the wav too. Why wavs? I know you can convert if
you wanted to, so it must be deliberate. It sounds like you want
something that will stream your original?

I can think of http://soundclick.com. They give listeners the option of
downloading the file, or listening to a high and low quality version
through a flash player. The interface is very simple to use for us viewers
as well and we don't have to register to listen.

I'm not sure if their compression will be applied to the original file or not
(for the high quality playboack), but I'm sure it's applied for low quality.    
Author:  Blain [ Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:49 pm ]
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I could be wrong, but I think with soundclick you will need to convert wav files to mp3, but as James said, I think this may give you what you're looking for Hesh.
Author:  Dave White [ Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:01 pm ]
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Hesh,

.wav files are very big, mp3 files are a better bet for posting on the internet. I use a free dowloadable converter - Switch - which you can get here.
I have some space on my AOL account where I can upload the mp3 files. Then you just post the link to the files on the site. When people click on the link the mp3 player they have on their computer plays the files - you don't need a dedicated player.

Like Bob I'd be happy to temporarily host your files if you e-mail them to me.

Looking forward to hearing your creations sing!
Author:  RobLak [ Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:17 pm ]
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OK Hesh...here's THE answer! You don't need any of us!

I used to have a blog thay i toyed with, haven't been there for years, and your question has me wondering if i could post wav files on the free blogsite. So i went there and lo and behold, they haven't deleted my account. So once i remembered my password, i did a search and fond this:


To do this ("This" being post a wav player... ) go to : Wav player widget and type Music in the search box and hit Enter. You will get a list of Google Gadgets that provide a Jukebox, a Playlist Player, a MP3 Player etc. Click on Add to Webpage button at the bottom of the gadget you wish to add to your blog. Modify the dimensions of the gadget and customize it so it will fit in your webpage preview and click on Get Code. Code is generated which you copy and paste into a Html/Javascript Page Element in the sidebar. For example this is a MP3 Player (Click on image for bigger view)

Similarly you can provide other functions like a free file upload directly from your blog. Just add a Free file upload gadget in your sidebar.

So according to the help, you can do exactly what you want at your own free site (The free blogging site is a Google tool, so it's legit!) You can sign up for a free blog at Free Blog site
and post your own files at your own free site.

Megga cool!

PS - the last time i entered a post there was 5/17/05, so the sites are not killed due to lack of activity.

PPS - additionally, you can sign up for google ads and make money off clicks from your website if you are so inclined.

Rob
Author:  RobLak [ Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:36 pm ]
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Isn't HeshTone.com your site?

If so, why can't you post themm there??

Rob
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:28 am ]
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Yeah, you could do that.  It doesn't even have to be a hyperlinked page.  You can just post a direct link that would not be accessible from your website, unless someone knew the actual address.

That high initial attack may be a bit of a recording problem.  I could require gating to kill the very early highs and soften the attack.  Don't know if Audacity has a gating feature or not.  Another option would be to play a little with mike placement. 
Sometimes you can cut down on the distortion created by the attack by
moving the mike away from the point of contact.
Author:  LuthierSupplier [ Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:03 am ]
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Hesh,
I'd be happy to host your files for you. But everyone is correct about using MP3 vs WAV. A typical 3 minute song is about 30-40MB and the same song in MP3 is about 4MB. Huge difference, and not much loss in quality either. You could even email me the mp3's and I'll put them in a location, and you can just link to them anyway you want from your own site. But if you have your own website, then you can do it yourself very easily. Just record your file as wav, then convert to mp3, then just ftp to your website in some location. Then on a webpage, link to this mp3 file. When someone selects the link, it automatically will download and play using the users browser settings to select the appropriate player at that particular PC/MAC. Give me call anytime if you want me to walk you through it. My number is on my website.
Tracy
Author:  James Orr [ Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:47 am ]
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Hey Hesh

Ah, the truth comes out. Computer expert by day, mp3 newbie by night


I have some advice as well. But just some quick things to do once you get
your file.

In Audacity, normalize the file to -5 db. That will give a good and
consistent volume level in line with the vocal level in pop music. Export
to wav...

Do you know how to convert to mp3 in itunes? trl-click on the file in your
library and select convert to mp3. Select your compression rate
under preferences > advanced > importing.

I agree about capturing the sound too! That's why I get excited when I
sometimes post a file and say, "I actually got it to sound like what it
sounds like!"    How far away from your top is your mic?
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:20 am ]
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[QUOTE=James Orr]
I agree about capturing the sound too! That's why I get excited when I

sometimes post a file and say, "I actually got it to sound like what it

sounds like!"    How far away from your top is your mic?[/QUOTE]

Boy James, you are right about that.  Our ensemble has done 3 CD's and classical guitars don't sound like classical guitars.  I did the mastering myself on the last one, and got some of the "twang" out of it through EQ and some other tricks, but it is hard to get a recording that is true to the instrument.  The whistle tracks and the vocal tracks sound fine, but the attack issue on recording a classical takes some work, and our recording engineer has not found the right combination.
Author:  James Orr [ Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:12 am ]
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Hey Waddy

Yeah, it can really be tough. I've really been having some luck with acoustic guitars though after getting some guidance. How have you guys been recording them?
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:00 am ]
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Mostly in a recording booth. This last one was with one of those big-ol' remote powered studio recording mics - don't recall what kind.  Close placement to the hand.  Caused a good bit of attack issues that he tried to correct with gating and some compression, but I think his EQ was off.  Problem is, when you hear it in the studio, for some reason, it doesn't sound the same as when you take it home and listen.  Big difference.  We didn't really do that on the first two, and he had a friend do the mastering.  On the last one we had some time, so I said I wanted to try my hand at it.  It was a new experience.  I used Adobe Audition.
Author:  James Orr [ Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:22 am ]
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It's definitely a new experience. Something I've noticed when guys are
recording classical guitar is that the mics are further away, two to even
six feet, in an XY position in front of the body. They have classical guitar
discussions a LOT at the Gear Slutz remote recording forum. I bet
checking it out who help you learn a lot about positioning and mic types.
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:18 am ]
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Yeah, that's something we should try.  Don't know if we'll get back in the studio or not, but it is fun.
Author:  burbank [ Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:17 pm ]
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Hesh,

You can save Audacity files as mp3 if you download the LAME (not a pejorative!) encoder. There's a link to it on the Audacity site.
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