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| Author: | bob_connor [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:21 am ] |
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Building a 12 string at present. An SJ of our own design and was glueing the braces on the soundboard. So I marked out the top on Wednesday. Dave comes into the shed Thursday sees the top marked out, glues the braces on. What teamwork !! So Friday I set to work carving the braces when the Doh moment hits. The guitarist who this guitar is for is LEFT-HANDED. Yep, tone bars were on the wrong way. We both on the floor laughing. Here's the before and after shots 
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| Author: | peterm [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:05 am ] |
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Well, at least you caught on time.... |
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| Author: | CarltonM [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:44 am ] |
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Hah! You're not the first, and won't be the last to do that. I bet its sound will be up to your standards if you go ahead and use it as it is. |
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| Author: | Kim [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:39 am ] |
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Charge more for the innovation 
I'm with Hesh, blame Dave. What a great advantage you guys have over the rest of us Bob. The potential exist for you both to complete your entire lutherical career without ever having made one single mistake yourself. How cool is that!
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| Author: | bob_connor [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:49 am ] |
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The best comment came from Dave. And this can't be reproduced without the Welsh accent. "We're both willies"
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| Author: | L. Presnall [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:29 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Hesh1956] Bob not stupid at all my friend - this seems pretty easy to do. If I recall correctly someone else on the OLF did this a couple of years ago. It was interesting then because the general opinion was that it would not make much, if any difference. If it were me I would blame Dave..... And if Dave had posted this I would tell him to blame you.... [/QUOTE]
It may have been me...the guitar'll sound great! 
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| Author: | Steve Saville [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:23 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Hesh1956] ........If I recall correctly someone else on the OLF did this a couple of years ago. It was interesting then because the general opinion was that it would not make much, if any difference......[/QUOTE] Is there anyone that can confirm this. I also suspect there wouldn't be a difference. |
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| Author: | JJ Donohue [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:50 am ] |
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Your next opportunity to become a "willie" is the bridge and nut. Were I making this guitar, I'd make the bridge right now so that I wouldn't forget later. But that's me! Thanks for posting, Bob...we all belong to the same club! 
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| Author: | drfuzz [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:20 am ] |
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I have done this.... but.... My understanding of guitar acoustics (slim as it is) is that it doesn't really matter. It's only in our mind that there is a 'treble' or a 'bass' side of the guitar top. The top is going to vibrate anyway - and the strings are close enough at the bridge that it really doesn't matter which way your tone bars go. Maybe I'll try it (on purpose) some time.... would be an interesting experiment to build two mirror-braced guitars. |
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| Author: | Mike Mahar [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:22 am ] |
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If it is for a customer I would strip off the tone bars and put them on the other way. Other's here are probably right in the it wouldn't affect the tone but lefty instruments are expected to run the other way. Stripping off a couple of braces and a "Magic tone enhancer" shouldn't take very long at all. |
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| Author: | bob_connor [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:28 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Mike Mahar] If it is for a customer I would strip off the tone bars and put them on the other way. [/QUOTE] Have a closer look at the pics above Mike 
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| Author: | Mike Mahar [ Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:15 am ] |
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So it would appear that you already took my advice. I only looked at the top picture. Lazy me. Question, Why three tone bars? I'm thinking of going to only one since the lower one doesn't seem to have much effect on the sound. At least you have to shave the heck out of them to get any change in a Chladni pattern. |
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| Author: | Mike Mahar [ Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:17 am ] |
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Oops, I just noticed that this is a 12 string. That explains the 3 tone bars. (I think) |
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| Author: | bob_connor [ Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:25 am ] |
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Yes Mike it's a 12 string and the top, although Adi, is not that stiff Thats also one reason the PMTE, to stiffen thing up a bit at the back of the bridge. Cheers |
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| Author: | gratay [ Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:11 am ] |
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my stupid moment not so long ago was to glue the neck block in the tail block position... and lucky realised what i was doing before the glue started to grip.. |
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