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Author:  Miketobey [ Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:18 am ]
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I have two Foredoms and one Pro-Dremel. I have the SM base-BUT- I have been doing woodbodied planes with eye-candy lately and couldn't resist. Recall that I confessed here that I know my gift, such as it may be, is in the tools. I enjoy inlay work. That red baby is one of the finest products I have ever bought. And, Bishop and Rob treat customers like Royalty. I have hundreds of dental burrs and I'm going to be an inlayin' fool here for awhile. Since the one ebony fingerboard I have laying around is for a 12 fret and I am doing a 14, I think I'll do some confidence building on it. Any hints from journeymen and Masters appreciated. Mike
Author:  LanceK [ Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:36 am ]
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Mike
no hints here, I have only used mine for rosettes, but it is with out doubt one of the finest tools in my shop, and I second your commetns about Bishop and Rob, good folks!

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Author:  Don Williams [ Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:44 am ]
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That Star Trek guy keeps popping up here every now and again for some reason.
Author:  Dave Anderson [ Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:53 am ]
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Sounds good Mike! I have been eye-ballin' the Bishop
Cochran for a while now. Well, since Lance posted pics
of his.But the cost has me hesitating on getting it.I
will eventually get one...maybe
Have fun with your inlayin'!
Author:  Brock Poling [ Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:55 am ]
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I concur... it is one of the finest tools I have ever owned.

I have the one for the PC310...
Author:  BobK [ Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:05 pm ]
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Mike,

What was the wait like? I tried to buy one through Allied a few weeks ago and they said they would forward my info directly to Bishop. I got busy with some other stuff and never followed up. I probably should do that...

BobK
Author:  crazymanmichael [ Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:51 pm ]
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if you are going to spend the money for the cockran base i would go for either the smaller model for the foredom tool or get the bigger version and a pc310. i've been using my small version for about 9 or 10 years and the only unsatisfactory aspect is the dremel. the base itself is a wonderful bit of engineering. also for inlay you will probably want the spring kit, an extra with the small model for sum unknown reason. they also make a round base, interchangeable with the rectangular one, which accepts pc bushings.

there was a comment posted on line some time ago that bishops bases would be unavailable for a while whilst he located another machinist to do the production. have no ideea whether that is still the case.
Author:  Miketobey [ Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:55 pm ]
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They are waiting on a supplier for some component of the 310. For a Foredom one, there is no wait but they only have a few. Mine is for the Foredoms-44t handpiece. I would not have bought for Dremel just because of runout inherent in many of the Dremels. I considered the 310 model since I would get rid of all of my full size routers and keep the 310 if I had to make the choice. The foot speed control is nice. I know that there are foot router speed controls, but I don't like to run a router that way. I also have the Foredom handpiece that fits the Stew-Mac base. Its lightweight and compact size(the S-M base)make it a good choice in some situations.mt
Author:  Dave Rector [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:36 am ]
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What type of bits are those of you that are using the PC 310 router cutting your rosettes with? I need to find some small bits that will fit the 1/4" collet on the 310 but don't know where to look.
Author:  Brock Poling [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:28 am ]
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LMI sells a collet reducer that you can use.
Author:  Dave Rector [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:42 am ]
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Thanks Brock!

I was just wondering if anyone had a source for 1/4" shank bits in the small sizes (under 1/8").
Author:  Peter J [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:06 am ]
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You can get the collet reducer or use this 1/4" to 1/8" reducer from Porter Cable. It's not a collet but utilizes a set screw. I use mine all the time on my Bosch Colt and it works fine and is only about $8.

        Porter Cable 1/4 to 1/8 reducer

YMMV

Cheers,
Peter
Author:  Miketobey [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:04 am ]
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Lee Valley has small bits on 1/4" shanks. I have all of them. They are first quality, as you might expect. Broke one 1/16th- missed while tapping on collet to release on my 310.mt
Author:  Dave Rector [ Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:23 am ]
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Thanks for the info guys!

Mike, the 1/16th bit with a 1/4" shank is exactly the one I've been looking for. Thanks!
Author:  Barry Daniels [ Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:44 am ]
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Micro Fence is making a plunge base similar to the Cochran that fits the Colt and others. Just as pricey too.
Author:  crazymanmichael [ Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:09 am ]
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i first became aware of the microfence base about a year ago. it is very, very nice and so it should be since it is about 50% dearer than the cochran base, and that is without a fence/circle guide which is standard with the cochran base. i think the microfence is another $150+= dollars on top of the base. basically you're up for about $500 before you put a motor in it.

but it does have a nice worklight and presets.

another problem with it is that due to the base having a solid base without the cutout featured on the cochran bases, to cut small circles you have to get still another attachment.

i took a look at it then and decided it was a bit too rich for my wallet.
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