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Author: | jerr6 [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:52 am ] |
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so basically i decided to glue the fb in the wrong position on the neck.i thought it should of been installed so that the nut would be on the angled headstock but it should of been so the nut would be on the neck face if that make sense. so now the fb is about a 1/4'' up the neck. so now the bridge would have to move closer and some of the gap would be seen on the rosette. since the fb is a quarter inch higher. is there any way to remove the fb from the neck. i really dont want to buy a new neck since the preshaped ones are kinda expensive.i can deal with a new fb,fretwire, shell for inlaysince i wasnt to happy with it anyways. thanks for the help jeremy |
Author: | David Collins [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:59 am ] |
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What's the scale length, or where does your 14th fret lie? How close to final shape is the neck and heel? What type of glue did you use? Fret boards are easy to remove with most glues, but some more details would be nice to make sure you're being pointed in the right direction. |
Author: | jerr6 [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:16 am ] |
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25.4 scale. the 14th fret is about 1/4'' above the neck/body jiont. glue was titebond. the body shpae is somewhat like my cole clark flac2 it has 16'' lb 11.5'' ub and 20.5 length. the only neck shaping left is basically all sanding. were you thinking maybe cut the neck to make it work? could work but its a bolt on neck and the bolt insert would be in the way i think. |
Author: | jerr6 [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:01 pm ] |
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ya it is fretted. i wonder if i could use my heating blanket. that would be sweet to save the fb and reuse it. |
Author: | David Collins [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:18 pm ] |
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I have one of those as well, though of course I installed a heater cartridge in it years ago . I don't think I've used it in years. I use heater cartridges and make custom aluminum cauls for a lot of internal work like bridge plates. For fret boards and bridges however, I still always go back to the 250w heat lamp. The beauty of the heat lamp over solid heaters is how easy and accurately you can control where heat is applied. Solid heaters like that one will transfer heat through direct contact or through the air in close proximity. When dealing with dark woods like ebony and rosewood however, the light from the heat lamp will turn to heat only in the material itself where it hits. I keep a drawer of cardboard and aluminum foil cauls for most bridge and fingerboard shapes, and my trusty roll of metal tape from the HVAC aisle. I can tape off the seam between the caul and bridge to protect finish, or around bindings and inlays on fingerboards where I don't want heat. Simple, cheap, easy, and in my experience more accurate and controllable than other methods I've tried. Anyway, if you want to move it I would just heat it with a heat lamp or two to soften the glue. On a .200" ebony board Titebond will typically soften in under 2 minutes with the bulb around 1" from the surface. Work in a thin smooth knife, such as a dulled fillet knife or a palette knife like the one in the picture above. It should come apart like butter (Titebond is good for that at least ). If it feels like it's not separating smoothly, put the heat back on for another minute and go again. When the resins start bubbling it's usually ready to go. Scrape or plane the surfaces clean, relocate and reglue. I assume the neck is not finished yet. Always remember that Nitro is basically a clear shiny version of gun cotton. Also, if the inlays you have contain celluloids they can flare up, where other plastics will more likely brown or melt. I find taping off to around 1/4" of these is usually enough protection. Shell won't be affected, though the CA glues or epoxies used to glue it in usually will. |
Author: | jerr6 [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:48 pm ] |
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well my side bending blanket worked like a champ. placed the neck fret side down frets actually on the blanket. bout 5-10 minutes i slowly heated it up. got i scraper i had started under the neck jiont tenon and the fb and in about 1 minute it was off. thanks you guys. you saved me prob close to 200 bucks worth of new neck,fb,fretwire, etc. since im so green in this hobby this forum is almost absolutely necessary for me . i would of never started building w/out it. i feel like a ton of bricks just was lifted off my shoulders. actually a ton of pipe since im a plumber not a bricklayer, haha. you guys got any plumbing problems ask me. that way i can start helping people here. thanks jeremy |
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