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Does anyone know of any nice, generally available material that could be used as a laminate between wood layers in solid bodies?


I need a black veneer about the thickness of poster board.


LMII sells the fiber veneer, but it is quite expensive...RCTonewoods is much more reasonable, and I am about to get some stuff from him, but I wanted to see what others have done first...


 


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I bought black dyed veneer, but it is .027 thick. I use it sometimes on rosettes and what have you. I also bought some maple veneer that I use the same way, making a BWB strip for various things.


I also purchased some of the black and white fiber from Uncle Bob at RCTonewoods. You wont be unhappy with anything you get from Bob. It's all top notch stuff!


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Steve I have some of Bobs black and white fiber, you can check it out tomorrow.

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I have purchsed Veneer and Super-Soft 2 here
It's an interesting site to visit.
Kind of like buying Tonewood.  You see the piece of veneer you buy.


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Thanks so much for the suggestions...


 


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How about carbon fiber cloth and West Systems epoxy? I've used both the cloth, and the mat between laminations and it makes a nice accent line as well as adding stiffness.

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Yeah,


I build and design boats for work, so I have tossed this around quite a bit...I haven't brought myself to the point where I can add composites to wood - but that is only because of me....I have no idea of its affect on the dynamics of the body..


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I wouldn't add epoxy graphite unless there was a structural reason to do so. An exposed laminate of this material is a lot harder than the surrounding wood which makes shaping and sanding much more difficult. It is difficult not to end up with a slightly protruding surface where the material is exposed.


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[QUOTE=BarryDaniels]exposed laminate of this material is a lot harder than the surrounding wood[/QUOTE]

Yup...  One of my favorite Japanese saws now has many broken teeth from trying to cut cured bi-directional carbon fiber.  Depending on the epoxy used, CF cuts beautiful with a utility knife blade when it is about 60-70% cured.  But when 100% curred the bi-directional stuff I had cut like steel.

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