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Author:  Brock Poling [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:57 am ]
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We would like to extend a very warm welcome to Bob Garrish and his business Saint Lutherie CNC to our roster of sponsors.

Bob has been doing CNC work for the community for some time now - lots of work doing inlay for headplates and fingerboards, making custom fingerboards, custom tooling, complex inlay, custom and production bridges, necks and other items as requested.

Check out his web site Saint Lutherie CNC
Author:  Don Williams [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:08 am ]
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Awesome! I was on his site yesterday, and he does fantastic work.
Author:  peterm [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:11 am ]
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Welcome Bob!!

Bob's stuff is great, if you need something give him a try.
Author:  Bob Garrish [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:35 am ]
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It's great to finally get the chance to sponsor the forum. I've been working 'in the shadows' for too long!

If it's not clear from the website, the products listed and options are just sample items. I end up doing all sorts of stuff here from aerospace prototypes to jewellery pieces to pay the bills, so there aren't too many things in lutherie that are too far out there. Drop an e-mail or give me a call if you've got something special in mind.

Let me know about anything you'd like available as singles, and if there are enough people interested then I can make those items in batches and sell individually. The major cost in CNC work is setups so the more pieces I can make at once, the better I can make the prices for you guys!
Author:  Andy Zimmerman [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:00 am ]
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Welcome.....as a sponsor

It is good to have more options.
John W.'s work it awesome and I am sure yours is too.
He probably appreciates someone else helping us all out!!!!!


Author:  Bob Garrish [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:20 am ]
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[QUOTE=azimmer1] Welcome.....as a sponsor

It is good to have more options.
John W.'s work it awesome and I am sure yours is too.
He probably appreciates someone else helping us all out!!!!!

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There's a can of worms. I agree that John does great work, but I doubt he's thrilled I'm sponsoring the forum. He's the reason I couldn't sponsor the forum months ago when I first tried.
Author:  KenH [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:38 am ]
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Welcome aboard again Bob!


You know you have a happy and satisfied customer here. I hope others can take advantage of your excellent work as well.
Author:  John Watkins [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:45 am ]
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I'm not actually in charge of who sponsors the forum, Bob, but I wish you the best of luck now just as I always have.
Author:  Bob Garrish [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:33 am ]
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The deal back then's a bit of a sore spot for me. I like you, John, and we've spoken a few times and I've learned some handy stuff from you. I tried to call you a few days back just to see how things were going.

That being said, it didn't help my business being blocked from advertising here for months by an agreement you were party to whether it was your idea or not. Business is business, but I don't want the perception that I -chose- not to support the forum as a black mark on my business.
Author:  JJ Donohue [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:09 pm ]
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Bob...I would suggest you keep any bad blood you have to yourself.

You wouldn't want to start a popularity contest...I know where my loyalty would lie.

A little humility and respect for fellow OLFers would be a better way to proceed. Remember...be nice!

...and thanks for your sponsorship.
Author:  Rod True [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:14 pm ]
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[quote=Bob Garrish]-I've been working 'in the shadows' for too long!

-He's the reason I couldn't sponsor the forum months ago when I first tried.

-That being said, it didn't help my business being blocked from advertising here for months by an agreement you were party to whether it was your idea or not. Business is business, but I don't want the perception that I -chose- not to support the forum as a black mark on my business.
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This is called airing your dirty laundry in public. Sad

You may have just given yourself your own black mark with a public airing like this.

Thanks for sponsoring though.
Author:  James Orr [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:20 pm ]
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Not to get caught up in this, but it's more sad when we become a people
who punish others for having dirty laundry. It seems like John is focusing
on production and willing to take on small custom work, and that Bob is
focusing on a lot of small custom work and willing to take on production.
Author:  Bob Garrish [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:16 pm ]
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My apologies to everyone for this mess. While I do feel I was unfairly slighted, I shouldn't have lost my head over it.

I shouldn't have directed any ill-seemings toward John. It was a business deal between his business and the forum I have issues with, rather than the people involved. I apologize directly to you, John, for not choosing my words more carefully to show that difference. Your kid picked on my kid, so to speak.

I got what I had to say off my chest, though my feelings about the situation made the presentation less than tactful, so I won't speak of this in public again.
Author:  Shane Neifer [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:12 pm ]
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Hey Bob,

Welcome to the forum. This community is indeed lucky to have the talents of both you and John available to them. I have availed myself of the services of both of you and have no regrets at all about either of your services and have found you both great guys to deal with. I know you will be doing great things and I also know that John continues to do great work as well (one of my good friends uses his necks in the kits he continues to buy/build!)

So welcome aboard!!

Shane
Author:  Pwoolson [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:32 pm ]
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Wow, ever heard of the term "don't bite the hand that feeds you?"
Bob, you do realize that you're using a thread started for your benefit by the management of a forum you sponsor to spout on the poor handling of sponsorships by the management of said forum, right?
Yeah, mark that down as one of the things you shouldn't have said on a public forum.
Author:  LanceK [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:43 am ]
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Jee wiz, I didn't expect this.
Bob, we are happy to have you as a sponsor, and we were happy to have John.
You guys both provide a service that many of us want and need.
That said, John was simply committed to a higher level of sponsorship (read Visibility) with that came certain benefits. John was not and is not the only sponsor that is at such a level of commitment.

Brock and I try our best to protect the sponsors that help keep this ball rolling. You will no doubt see that in the months to come from the other side, the side that needs protecting.

I hope this all makes sense.

Author:  JJ Donohue [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:08 am ]
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Lance...Thanks for explaining something about which we regular members should never have had to be exposed. Sorry you had to intervene, but thanks for clarifying, I guess.

Boy...if ever I wanted to see a thread disappear, this is the one!
Author:  LanceK [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:26 am ]
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Your welcome JJ,

I know that you know this, but its important to say it again.

The membership of the OLF makes up its "culture" good bad and otherwise. We all have made life long friends here and have learned lots. I know I have.

The "Sponsors" keep this place alive. Past and present, they provide our membership with valuable products that we all need. They are usually experts in there field, and for the most part tend to share freely with what they know. I could go on and on but I will leave it at that.

As much as I love this place, and the people here, if not for our sponsors we would not exist.
So I thank them for keeping us going, and for making it possible plan for the future.

Author:  Bob Garrish [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:31 am ]
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Trust me, Lance, I'm more than regretful I ever brought it up here. A little indiscretion goes a long way.

I'm a public guy, Paul. I'm sure I'll get my comeuppance for my dissent one way or another.
Author:  peterm [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:34 am ]
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Both John Watkins and Bob Garrish are great guys that offer great products and expertize.... Bob already apologized for the "foot insertion" part so lets move on to building guitars and not make this thread "another" one of those "threads"....

We are all good people with good intentions but even good peopple with good intentions say things they wish they hadn't. At least Bob realized that and apologized.
Author:  LanceK [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:43 am ]
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Speaking of Expertize!
This just plain scares me!



Bob, that is good stuff!
Author:  Bob Garrish [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:57 am ]
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Most things in that industry are pretty scary, especially when you know what they are!

I've always thought that piece was rather pretty, though. I'd have used it as a pencil holder
Author:  Bobc [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:03 am ]
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Hey Bob welcome aboard.
Author:  L. Presnall [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:33 am ]
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How's the Luthier's Showcase coming?
Author:  Brock Poling [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:52 am ]
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I am not sure how it relates to this thread... but the LS has morphed into a new direction. Lance and I are working on a project that will give the LS a very good foundation... but clearly this thing is very very far off the rails. All I can say is that when it finally happens it will be really cool.

We want to get the new OLF site up first, and then we will tackle that project.

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