Hesh got there first- I should learn to type faster!
That makes two votes for paring chisels designed to fit your hand, rather than designed to be hammered.
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| Author: | Blain [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:15 am ] |
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I'm looking to spend around $150 for a good quality set of chisels. Has anyone tried any of the Chisels that Woodcraft sells? Any other reccomendations if Woodcraft is not reccomended? |
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| Author: | Blain [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:59 am ] |
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Thanks Todd. I'm looking on the Tools for Working Wood site now. Thanks for the reccomendation! |
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| Author: | BlackHeart [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:05 am ] |
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You will also need a strope and sharpening stuff! Havent seen much on keeping up with chisels. Ive gotten into the bad habbit of just using 1000 grit with olive oil every now and then. These need to be stroped with leather and jewlery polish. |
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| Author: | BlackHeart [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:07 am ] |
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Jewlers rouge. Sorry, hey where is the 'edit' button?
BTW, Anyone have a link for those little micro planes, there were posts a couple weeks ago? I used search but got nothing. |
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| Author: | John Mayes [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:20 am ] |
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another vote for two cherries chisels...I have a dozen or so of them and love them all. |
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| Author: | JohnAbercrombie [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:49 am ] |
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Blain- If you're going to be using the chisels for instrument-building, you might want to take a look at the sort of chisels (paring chisels) that LMII sells. Using a (hooped) chisel like the TwoCherries-designed for chopping with a mallet/hammer- for hand work is not something I'd enjoy doing, but others obviously differ. For chopping work or building a boat, the TwoCherries would be just the ticket. I bought 3 or 4 of the LMII-type chisels from Lewis Luthier before he sold out to LMI years ago- they are good quality and still my favourite tools for fine paring work. Cheers John |
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| Author: | JohnAbercrombie [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:51 am ] |
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Hesh got there first- I should learn to type faster! That makes two votes for paring chisels designed to fit your hand, rather than designed to be hammered.
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:13 am ] |
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I bought a set of 4 Crown Bench Chisels for about $50 +/- and like them pretty well. They seem to hold an edge well, and they seem to work just fine. I also have a Two Cherries 2mm chisel that is pretty nice. I think I got it at Highland Woodworking. If you want high end chisels, you can get Sorby, Aurion, Henry Taylor, Ashley Iles, and some others here. You can get the 3 sizes mentioned of the Sorby Long Paring chisels for about $135. |
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| Author: | Arnt Rian [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:38 am ] |
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I will vote against the Sorby paring chisels, go with the Taylors instead (I have both). The Taylors hold a much better edge. The Two cherries are fine, I have a full set. I also have some of their flat carving chisels, and my one LMI chisels looks a lot like on of them, save for the handle of course. Does anyone know who makes those chisels for LMI? Pfeil is about the same quality as two cherries IMO. I also like my inexpensive Japanese chisels, they are totally different but sure take a keen edge. If you like old I can recommend Scandinavian carbon steel chisels with names like E.A Berg, Jernbolaget, Eskilstuna and Kongsberg, they are really great. On your side I guess you are more likely to find Bucks Brothers, Stanley and... (Todd can fill you in). Check out flea markets, old tool dealers and eBay for these. I agree with what has been said about sizes, if I could pick one more it would be a 2-3 mm one for detail work. |
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| Author: | Jim Kirby [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:50 am ] |
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I'll go with Hesh on this one - I've never had much urge to use regular bench chisels for luthiery, and I like the feel of the LMI chisels for this work much better. And, to throw in a suggestion from left field, I also like the long bladed paring chisels - I use these for most of the detail work in making bridges. Just added another Sorby to my collection the other day, but I had gotten by with the 1/2" and 3/4" for quite a while. |
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| Author: | Shane Neifer [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:03 am ] |
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I'm with Jim, I quite like my Sorby paring chisels for shaving wood, I have four of them. I also have a full set of Hirsch, from Lee Valley, and a pretty complete set of Japanese chisels and I like them all as well. For sharpening I use 1000, 4000 and 8000 grit water stones, I have never noticed any difference on sharpness when I stropped a chisel so I haven't done that for years! Good luck Shane |
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| Author: | KenH [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:03 am ] |
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Include me in with the Sorby chisels. I bought 3 of them on a day that woodcraft was having a 10% off sale and got them at a good price. They are the long paring chisels and I reccomend the long shanked chisels over the shorts any day. The Sorby's hold an edge forever with just minimal care and they fit my hands well too. They are made in England. Which ever chisel you get, I reccomend getting yourself a Veritas MkIII honing system and some of the abrasive papers to go with them. They will help you to keep a mirror edge on your chisels and the guide is really easy to work with also. |
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| Author: | PDeWitt [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:12 am ] |
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I am happy there is a discussion about chisels going on. I was just looking for chisels today (getting tools together for my first guitar). My question is this: Have any of you ever used butt chisels for shaping braces? Any limitations I should take into consideration? My hands tend to be a bit shaky and it seems like I could do much more controled work with the blade closer to my hand. Also, should I buy a 1" or 3/4" chisel as my main brace-shaping chisel? Thanks again for the great discussion. |
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| Author: | KenH [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:32 am ] |
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[QUOTE=PDeWitt]Have any of you ever used butt chisels for shaping braces? Any limitations I
Chances are pretty strong that you would never use anything bigger than a 1/2" chisel. I have larger ones up to 1.5", but I never use them. Mine are 1/4, 3/8, 1/2 inches. I want 2 more chisels. One of them a 3/8" curved shank for removing glue and the other a 3/16 or smaller chisel.... seems I am always needing a smaller one The way you use the long shank chisels is to use your other hand as a guide, which is MUCH more stable than trying to do it one handed. Because of this, the short shanked chisels are harder to control than the long shanked ones. |
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| Author: | jhowell [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:37 am ] |
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I have a set of Irwin chisels which work well, but do require sharpening a bit more often. These chisels from Lee Valley are first on my list when it comes time to spend a little tax refund this spring. |
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| Author: | PDeWitt [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:40 am ] |
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Thanks for the advice, Ken! |
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| Author: | Steve Walden [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:00 pm ] |
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Are they unmarried???? |
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| Author: | Jim Kirby [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:49 pm ] |
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[QUOTE=PDeWitt] I am happy there is a discussion about chisels going on. I was just looking for chisels today (getting tools together for my first guitar). My question is this: Have any of you ever used butt chisels for shaping braces? Any limitations I should take into consideration? My hands tend to be a bit shaky and it seems like I could do much more controled work with the blade closer to my hand. Also, should I buy a 1" or 3/4" chisel as my main brace-shaping chisel? Thanks again for the great discussion.[/QUOTE] I pretty much do all my brace shaping with finger planes - I have one of the Schneider planes from LMI, and it and one of the glue clearing chisels is pretty much what is on the bench when I am shaping braces. JK |
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| Author: | John Lewis [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:30 pm ] |
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Blain- Don't be afraid to look for used long paring and long firming chisels from the late 19th century until before WWII. You can find many online sites that deal with vintage tools and ebay can be ok if you find a good seller and you really educate yourself about the older makers of chisels. I got a set of G.I. Mix long paring chisels (company from New England - defunct around the turn of the century) in 1/4", 3/8", 1/2" and 3/4" for less than $40 online. I have since filled in the other sizes for about the same amount with older Keen Kutter, Union, and Buck Bros chisels. I like the longer chisels and the handles fit my hands great. Hope you find what works for you- |
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| Author: | John Lewis [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:38 pm ] |
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Blain- Don't be afraid to look for used long paring and long firming chisels from the late 19th century until before WWII. You can find many online sites that deal with vintage tools and ebay can be ok if you find a good seller and you really educate yourself about the older makers of chisels. I got a set of G.I. Mix long paring chisels (company from New England - defunct around the turn of the century) in 1/4", 3/8", 1/2" and 3/4" for less than $40 online. I have since filled in the other sizes for about the same amount with older Keen Kutter, Union, and Buck Bros chisels. I like the longer chisels and the handles fit my hands great. I went overboard buying chisels. Ken is probably right, not a lot of need for more than a 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2". Hope you find what works for you- |
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| Author: | RCoates [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:47 pm ] |
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It's easy to go overboard buying chisels. If I could only keep one set it would be the Two Cherries. The two and three mm sizes come in quite handy. |
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