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Author:  WaddyThomson [ Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:36 pm ]
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Well, after my last post on rosette and top, I was convinced to use the German Spruce I picked up from The Zootman at the last Swap Meet. So I joined up the set. 

Also, after the last Rosette thread, I made some minor changes to the rosette.  Here it is in Dry assembly - everything a different thickness.

 

Top joined and cut to size, I slotted the rosette circle with my circle cutter.  I decided that keeping the depth of the cutout even would be easier if I had slots all the way across at the same depth.  Cut till the slots are gone.  All even.

 



When disassembling the dry assembly, things blew up a little, and I had to replace a few lines, but all pulled together and staged for assembly.



Gluing up, and finished gluing.

 

Glue dry and wedge placed in area where fingerboard will be, and planing of rosette has begun.



After planing until close to board, scraping to get down to board surface.
 

Close-up.  Not perfect, but passable.

 

With BRW Fingerboard, and another with the back.

 

Thanks for looking!
Author:  old man [ Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:53 pm ]
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Wow, Waddy, that came out nice, and a fine tutorial, too. The rosette turned out beautifully, I really like it.


A tip for removing the dry assembly: Clear duct tape. Once the rosette is assembled dry put clear duct tape on the top of it. You can then remove the whole rosette without it coming apart. Put your glue in the final resting place and install the rosette. When it is dry, just peel the tape off.

Ron
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:55 pm ]
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Thanks, Hesh.  It came out OK, but unfortunately, in wet/glue assembly, it did not come out the same as it did in dry assembly.  I would have aligned it differently.  I don't know if it was from the glue swelling stuff or that the wet assemly area was slightly smaller than the dry assembly layout when it was staged for assembly.  I suspect the latter.

If I clean up stuff, I would never find anything again.    
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:59 pm ]
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[QUOTE=old man]Wow, Waddy, that came out nice, and a fine tutorial, too. The rosette turned out beautifully, I really like it.





A tip for removing the dry assembly: Clear duct tape. Once the rosette is assembled dry put clear duct tape on the top of it. You can then remove the whole rosette without it coming apart. Put your glue in the final resting place and install the rosette. When it is dry, just peel the tape off.



Ron[/QUOTE]

Good tip Ron.  I'm not sure it would have worked for me though, since some of my strips of veneer were higher than others.  I kept the BRW pieces aroung 3 - 3.5 mm because when they were too thin they would split to pieces.  I figured if they were high, after gluing they would hold together better.  So, I had lots of different heights of material.
Author:  Shawn [ Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:11 pm ]
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I think it looks great. All of the extra effort you put into it, both during the conceptualization of the rosette design and the choice to switch to the German spruce top has culminated in a much better, excellent combination that will really show your level of craftsmanship.

Congratulations and enjoy the results of having not compromised...it is worth it.

Well done.
Author:  jfrench [ Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:44 pm ]
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Great job! I am confident you've made the right decisions and sure you'll be well rewarded for them. Keep it up!
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:53 pm ]
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Thanks guys.  I also thinned the edges of the lower bout, so next up is some prep for brace gluing.  Then on to glue up and side bending - that's gonna be interesting.
Author:  Heath Blair [ Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:46 pm ]
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waddy, that looks great my friend. as i knew it would. im really excited to watch your guitar come together. i think that your personality type, work ethic, skill, and creativity are going to make for a great sounding and looking guitar. good job. i like how you used your circle cutter to make concentric same-depth cuts across the width of the rosette channel. thats pretty slick man. makes for a nice even depth when you chisel out the waste. of which, i will say that chiseling out by hand is pretty slick in itself.
Author:  Kim [ Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:33 pm ]
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Very cool Waddy,

Your Rosette has all the detail to demonstrate fine skills without being overly loud and boorish, a tasteful combination of colour and design.

Well Done

Cheers

Kim
Author:  Allen McFarlen [ Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:01 pm ]
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Very tasteful and elegant design. That is going to be a fine looking top. Can't wait to see how the rest comes together.
Author:  Colin S [ Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:32 pm ]
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Well done Waddy, I concur that the final choice of the Euro top was the right one, you won't regret it. Nice work on the rosette as well, now that's the way that a rosette channel should be cut, it's very satisfying isn't it, and I find just as quick.

I'm, just about to do the same with a rosette, but mine has 25 purfling strips , I think I'll laminate some together before I start.

Colin

Author:  Dave White [ Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:52 pm ]
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Nice work Waddy - that's looking mighty fine
Author:  bob_connor [ Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:09 pm ]
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It's more than passable Waddy. It looks great.

Cheers
Author:  Ray Pepalis [ Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:59 pm ]
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WOW, that's great.
Why didn't I do something like that?

Ray
Author:  Marc [ Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:22 pm ]
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Very impressive Waddy, I really like the rosette. Outstanding work.
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:49 am ]
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Thanks everyone.  It was a great experience.  When still rough, it looked pretty cruddy.  Couldn't see the smaller lines very well.  When I got down to scraping, you could see the details appear.  It was a lot of fun, but there was a lot of stress cutting into that new top.  Something made me want to just live with the 3/8" sound hole from the drill, and bypass the rosette installation.
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:57 am ]
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[QUOTE=Colin S]I'm, just about to do the same with a rosette, but mine has 25 purfling strips , I think I'll laminate some together before I start.


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I wish I had laminated even some of mine together.  The thin w/b/w pieces and the strips on either side of the rope could have been done easily, and it would have made assembly much easier, I think.  Though, when I think about it, it might not have been as forgiving when pressing in the tiles.  I also wish I had glued the little .3mm strips to each side of the tiles first.  Those were a pain.
Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:00 am ]
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SUPER jOB
Author:  Alexandru Marian [ Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:32 am ]
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Bravo Waddy,

That is indeed a very very nice rosette !!



Author:  KenH [ Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:11 am ]
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That is one impressive rosette!


Knowing the effort you went to to create this just makes it even more impressive!


well done !!
Author:  Billy T [ Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:47 am ]
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Outstanding!
Author:  James Orr [ Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:58 am ]
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Wow, that's going to be a great guitar! I'm sure you'll love the German,
too.
Author:  Bruce Dickey [ Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:28 am ]
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Great Job Waddy. Thanks for the toot.

You have chops.
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