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First name: Bob
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If we assume Hond Mahog with Sitka top, what effect does x braced L-00 have on orig sound of Gibson braced L-00, and does the bracing wood make a differene. What bracemeasurements are you using for L00-do measurements vary with specie of bracing used?


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Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
First name: Hesh
Last Name: Breakstone
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Bob buddy when I was building mine I did a lot of research and here are some of the things that I found.  Unfortunately I didn't record where this material came from so I can't post proper attribution - my apologies.

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    * Year: 1929
    * Serial #: 9569
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    * Top Wood: Spruce
    * Neck Wood: Mahogany, 1 piece
    * Headplate: ebony
    * Headstock Inlay: Builder Logo
    * Fingerboard: Rosewood
    * Fret Markers: dots
    * Frets to body: 12
    * Cutaway: none
    * Bridge: Brazilian Rosewood
    * Pickguard: Tortoise
    * Bindings: Ebony
    * Top Trim: none
    * Rosette: Ivoroid
    * Tuners:
    * Case: hardshell case, not original
    * Pickup: No
    * Condition: Very Good +, Bill Tippin did a neck reset, new brazilian rosewood fingerboard and bridge and refret all to the correct specs. This one is ready to be played for years and years.
    * Body Length: 19 1/4 in.
    * Upper Bout: 10 1/4 in.
    * Lower Bout: 14 3/4 in.
    * Body Depth @Neck Heel: 3 3/8 in.
    * Body Depth @Tail Block: 4 1/4 in.
    * Scale Length: 24.75 in.
    * Nut Width: 1 3/4 in.
    * Strings Spacing: 2 3/8 in.
    * Comments: "This is the classic Gibson acoustic from the '20's that everyone loves. It's got that "sound" and it plays like a dream. Even though there is a considerable amount of visible wear, the guitar is in fantastic playing condition and is set up perfectly. This is probably due to the fact that it belongs to professional Old-time musician Adam Tanner. I would love to have this guitar, personally, but Adam won't give it to me. So, it's yours for the asking. Don't miss out on this rare opportunity." - Al Petteway
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tHANKS hESH.
'spruce-what specie?
Bracing-what kind of spruce used and measurements?


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Of course, this workshop could not be Hesh's.... Its too cluttered!

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"Loo Pros"??? Don't you need a plumbing forum?

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Ahh, Howard, thou doest love to pick a nit, does thou not?  

Good one!


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http://www.dreamguitars.com/preowned/acoustic/Gibson_L00_193 2.htm


Hesh I think a lot of your info came from Dreamguitars. They have a 1932 L00 there now.


Warren



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when I saw this thread, I was thinking the same as Howard. I dunno if you call me a pro, but I have been at it for 51 years.

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Well Howard my friend I DO qualify as a Loo Pro since my first 10 guitars were built in the loo.  So there!

It was in that loo that I learned to do "kerfing" and planned my next "builds".......... 

Thank you Warren - she's a beauty and I would love to have an original and a black one too!!!



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I have a 14 Fret L-00 from '32 - '34. The braces clock in at 5mm wide x 14mm tall. The top is .125 thick around the sound hole. It may be an adirondack top, but it's hard to tell through all that black paint.

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[QUOTE=Hesh] Well Howard my friend I DO qualify as a Loo It was in that loo that I learned to do "kerfing" and planned my next "builds".......... Thank you !!!
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I had almost forgot about Hesh being the loo master builder. It is amazing how many quality ideas come out of the loo too

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