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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:06 am 
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It's a clean break as far at that goes right where it was joined, on an old Yamaha FG 75. More emotional value than anything. So need advice on the best  sequence of repair  (or is this a hotglue and brace situation?)
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Hi Matt, welcome to the OLF.

The repair pros here will most certainly want some pictures from you.



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a photo or two is necessary for any meaningful comment.


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Inject very hot water, squeeze it out, then inject hot hide glue, and clamp it. The wet hot wood will suck the hot hide glue in beautifully.


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Nice Rick!
And a bit kinky sounding!

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The hot water trick is something I picked up from Dave Handloff of More Music here in SC, and I think he got it from Mark Tossman, an incredible repair and restoration luthier.   I saw a Les Paul that David did...a white one...and after Addam Stark did a spot refin/overspray and then antiqued the touch up with clear with amber toner, you absolutely could not see the break, and it had just the right funky look to match the guitar perfectly.

The damp wood really wicks in the HHG.


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Matt, Most likely you'll need some Titebond or PVA glue of your choice. Some clamps, Klemmsia if you have any. Wax paper, cauls, and regular screw clamps if you don't have Klems. It's amazing how strong your glue joint can be.

Be careful to keep the headstock from slipping out of alignment by blocking it's escape, maybe clamp it to a workbench or something. You'll figure it out. Good luck.

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thank you very much guys I will keep you informed of the progress. Great advice with that wet wood idea


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When you said Hot Glue, I was thinking you meant glue sticks and a glue gun.

I have to agree with the HHG proponents as well Hot hide glue is probably better than Titebond here. They both work well, but I'd give HHG the edge on a wee bit more hold power and invisibility, which is important.

Remember Matt, we need pictures!   

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Yeah, hot melt glue sticks and a staple gun...maybe a bit of double stick tape topped with duct tape, too.


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And Baling Wire for strings....

I see one of those old bailers on the mountain when I go to the cabin. When I was five, I was wondering why everyone was standing around the rear of that thing poking wires through the hay. Was that a half century ago... gosh I'm old.

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Drywall screws! They can be used to fix and build anything.

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