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| Author: | jonhfry [ Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:22 am ] |
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where do you get the stuff? |
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| Author: | Bobc [ Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:24 am ] |
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www.veneersupplies.com |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:30 pm ] |
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Highland Hardware too. Here |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:31 pm ] |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:31 pm ] |
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Pumping up my numbers!
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| Author: | Steve Saville [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:18 am ] |
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How is it used for bending? (soak time, spray, immersion etc.... Is there an issue with finish and adhesives? |
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| Author: | JJ Donohue [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:00 am ] |
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1) Spray 2) Wait minimum of 2 hours 3) Bend normally No finish or adhesive issues after 4 guitars |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:19 am ] |
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Interesting, JJ. Others have recommended spraying, wrapping in Kraft paper, letting dry for a couple of days, then bending with normal process. I like your idea better. Here is another question. I have a set of sides for my current builld, Zebrawood, that have cupped. I have sprayed the, inside side of the cup with water, and re-stickered, but they seem not to be flattening out completely, even after two applications of water. Would it work to spray them with Super-Soft II, flatten them out, then thickness, then bend? Would I have to use SS again, or just wet and bend? I'll be using a bending iron. |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:46 am ] |
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You want the Glycol to be absorbed into the wood fiber thoroughly. This takes longer than a couple hours on a back and side set. You want the wood to dry to avoid chemical staining. A couple hours may work well with thin veneers but on a side set that is .08-.095 thick it will take much longer. I spray wrap in kraft paper/rotate daily and bend on the third day. JJ you are likely getting some aid from the SSII in just 2 hours but my experience is that Three days is more effective. |
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| Author: | JJ Donohue [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:17 am ] |
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I think I've posted my routine so many times on this forum that I just got lazy and gave the Cliff's Notes version. I typically have waited overnight but have also found it to be effective within a few hours as long as it has absorbed. Some woods take longer...but if you feel better with 3 days, go for it. Yes...I wrap in kraft paper and lightly spray the outside of the wrap with distilled water before bending normally. This isn't rocket science! |
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| Author: | Hesh [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:51 am ] |
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Uri Geller don't need no stinkin Supersoft to bend sides........ 
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| Author: | joelThompson [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:32 am ] |
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I must say allthough products that make our life easyer are wonderfull imho the idea of spraying chemicals on to my wood makes me a little uneasy. I thought that the introduction of the heat blanket made my life easyer now i find there is another product for me to spend my hard erned cash on 
I havent tried this product so i am no position to poo poo it and for dificult to bend timbers like paduak or brittle and expensive timber like zirocote it sure seems like a wonderfull product but i for will think twice before using any chemicals on easy to bend woods like mahogany (for example)That i have no truoble bending by hand let alone with a blanket. saying that i will buy a tub for my tricky woods as i am sure it will save me money on possable broken sides. Oh yes the reason i started writing, has anyone experienced buckling of the sides once bent after using supersoft 2. Joel. |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:57 am ] |
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The only place I use it is on high figure or hard to bend woods. those are the most prone to warp/cup, which is what I think you mean by buckle. i have had no problems as that is a sign of access moisture not the ply-ability of the wood fiber. The heat from bending cooks out all excess moisture in my routine. |
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| Author: | joelThompson [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:28 am ] |
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Thanks michael, I will give it a go next time i am using a dificult timeber in the mean time i will stick to my current method. Joel. |
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| Author: | joelThompson [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:29 am ] |
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Timeber thats a whopper of of a misspell even for my dyslexic brian
Wheres that edit button when you need it. joel |
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| Author: | paul harrell [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:30 am ] |
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Waddy - you need to wet the convex side. Then sticker, weight and wait. Works most every time, except when it doesn't. Peace, Paul |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:02 pm ] |
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Bob C told me just the opposite. Interesting. I'll try anything, though. Hi Paul. Haven't seen you lately. |
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| Author: | KenH [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:05 pm ] |
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I bent some figured maple sides to a sharp cutaway form using SSII and it worked beautifully. I let it dry overnight before bending, then moistened the wood before bending. I could almost bend it to shape without the form. no cracks, splits or any other damage found. |
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