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Author: | Ricardo [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:32 am ] |
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Finally getting around to building the Williams binding jig. It calls for 1/4" phenolic. Anyone know a source for this material, or an alternative? |
Author: | David Collins [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:43 am ] |
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Check your local industrial supply houses. Places like McMaster Carr, Grainger, MSC, etc., will usually sell it in rods, bars, and sheets. |
Author: | Don Williams [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:43 am ] |
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Highland Hardware in Atlanta... |
Author: | WaddyThomson [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:19 am ] |
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Also Peachtree Woodworking |
Author: | WaddyThomson [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:20 am ] |
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Is that stuff the same thing that cutting boards are made from? You can get those at the grocery store and cut them up. |
Author: | Don Williams [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:39 am ] |
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No Waddy, different animal. This is essentially phenolic kraftpaper sort-of-like stuff in layers with some sort of bonding agent (epoxy?) that creates a hard board. It drills well, routes like wood etc, but is very stable and makes great jig material. Phenolic board is also used for PC boards, and IRRC, Formica. Although I could be wrong about some of that. |
Author: | Rick Turner [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:53 am ] |
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There are many grades of phenolic, and the better ones are linen based rather than Kraft paper. "Garolite" is the stuff I get from McMaster-Carr. PC boards are mostly now made with fire retardant epoxy reinforced with fiberglass. Formica and other brands of HPL (High Pressure Laminate) is a phenolic/kraft paper product; there were a number of years when it seemed that I was using many square miles of the stuff... |
Author: | Bruce Dickey [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:29 am ] |
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Why not aluminum stock?? |
Author: | Rick Turner [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:38 am ] |
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Aluminum can gall; Lexan or Plexi can melt. That said, I do use both often, but for the bulk of my working templets for router table or pin router I like phenolic. |
Author: | Ricardo [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:50 am ] |
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I have some lexan, I might try that. Only critical thing is not blowing out the bolt holes near the edges. Also wished there were a source of aluminum plate close by. I could get a phenolic board from Highland for $13 and pay 6 for shipping, arrgh. Shipping is becoming ridiculous. |
Author: | Brett Faust [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:11 pm ] |
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Richard, you might try Mapletex in Tacoma WA. for phonolic.I believe the owners name is Steve. I could be wrong, it has been along time since I had any contact. |
Author: | Ricardo [ Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:47 am ] |
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Thanks all for the suggestions. Here's my attempt using Lexan: |
Author: | Ricardo [ Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:32 am ] |
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Todd, I have nylon washers between the lexan and the hardwood arms. Thanks |
Author: | Bruce Dickey [ Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:06 am ] |
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da boys at highland hardware dot com have the stuff. I see you don't need it but someone else may. Phenolic is used for router bases I see in their catalog. |
Author: | tippie53 [ Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:46 am ] |
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I do use Alum . If you are using a plastic use 1/4 lexan . Phenolic is available at MSC or most industrial supply warehouses. You can use any rigid material that wears well. Even wood will work just make the holes clean and wax them well. john hall blues creek guitars |
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