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Armrest...First attempt!
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Author:  russ [ Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:34 am ]
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After seeing Tony Karol's step-by-step, and reading an old email I had from Alan Beardsell, I thought it was about time I gave this Laskin armrest thing a try. Here are the results so far. If anyone's interested, I'll post some updates when I get a lid on it...



As you can see, this one also has an auxilliary sound port. In for a penny, in for a pound, as they say!

The only thing I will do differently than Tony/Laskin, is to try to use a black veneer on the armrest area instead of painting it black. This is the way Al Beardsell told me he is doing it.



Here's the back, simple paua backstrip with some thin b/w/b purfling. EI rosewood back and sides.



This one will get some of Zootman's ebony binding, and an Italian spruce top with a spalted maple rosette (oval sound hole) and end graft....also an ebony "dress-up" ring around the side port.

A guy sure can keep himself busy doing this stuff, huh?

Author:  John Kinnaird [ Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:53 am ]
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Very nice Russ
Now what are you going to do? I am in the process of making one of these things myself and would love to see you do yours.

Where did you get Tony Karol's step by step? I wouldn't mind reading what he has to say on the matter.

John
Author:  Tim McKnight [ Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:58 pm ]
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Russ:
Nice box. I too would like to see more info on the arm rest. Love the port. Mine are the same shape and location only about 1/2 the size of yours. I realy like the results of my soundports and I am sure you will like yours too.
Author:  EricKeller [ Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:11 pm ]
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It's in the MIMF library, i.e. you must login before you can read it. They have two search functions, one for the library and one for the current messages. Just found this out regarding this very subject.

Interesting thing about the photo-essay Tony Karol did. He glued in the armrest then cut it with the top installed, and there was a void in the wood. Talk about bummers.
Author:  Tim McKnight [ Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:25 pm ]
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Another reason to justify candleing your tops before installing them.
Author:  tl507362 [ Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:34 pm ]
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Russ,
Perfect execution! Hope to discuss this with you this summer in Denver. It it absolutely beautiful!

John,
Check your email, I sent you all of Tony's notes with his permission of course. Enjoy!
Tracytl50736238465.9833564815
Author:  Keith M [ Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:11 pm ]
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Russ,
Very nice indeed. Can you possibly email Tony's notes
to me also?
keithmackenzie@mindspring.com
Thanks
Author:  Keith M [ Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:12 pm ]
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oops!! I meant Tracy not Russ or maybe both
Author:  tl507362 [ Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:17 pm ]
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Sure, on its way!
Tracy
Author:  russ [ Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:08 pm ]
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Thanks everyone!

Tim and John, if you would like Tony's notes, I'm sure Tracy can provide them to you. I would send them directly, but Tracy is the one who has permission from Tony to distribute them.

The next step will be to install the top, then I will cut the purfling/binding ledges as normal around most of the guitar, except for the purfling in the armrest area. My armrest will remove 3/4" from the top and the side of the guitar (45 degree bevel).

Here is a picture of the armrest support block. I made this one from spruce, but I would imagine cedar or basswood would work equally well. I just happened to have a chunk of spruce laying around.



When you see Tony's notes, you will get a better idea of it. Much simpler in pictures than in words!
Author:  bob J [ Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:49 pm ]
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Qustion. Is the armrest used mainly to use something different, for show, or does it have actual reason for use? I really don't know
Thanks
Author:  Tim McKnight [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:29 am ]
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[QUOTE=tl507362] Sure, on its way!
Tracy[/QUOTE]

Tracy:
Please email them to me too if you wouldn't mind. Thanks a lot.
tim [at] mcknightguitars [dot] com
Author:  russ [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:47 am ]
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Bob,

In the finsihed guitar, the edge of the guitar in the area of the armrest will be beveled.

The idea is that your arm does not lay across the sharper "normal" edge of the guitar, but rests on the beveled area, giving more support to the arm, and spreading any pressure over a larger area, making the guitar more comfortable to play.
Author:  bob J [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:11 am ]
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Thanks russ
Author:  EricKeller [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:41 am ]
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[QUOTE=Tim McKnight] Another reason to justify candleing your tops before installing them.[/QUOTE]

The void was in the 1"+ block used for the armrest itself, need a laser to see anything through that much wood. But I'm glad you said this 'cause it does sound like a good idea.
Author:  LanceK [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:16 am ]
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Tracy - id love those notes as well
Author:  LanceK [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:17 am ]
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Very nice Russ - please show us the rest of the rest when its done!
Author:  Josh H [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:49 pm ]
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Nice job Russ

I will be trying this soon and am interested to see how yours turns out. Would you mind posting some pictures when you go to put the veneer on. I would be interested to see how that is done.

Josh
Author:  tl507362 [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:05 pm ]
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Lance, they are on the way, check your email.
Tracy
Author:  Tim McKnight [ Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:29 am ]
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Tracy:
Please send them to me too.
Thanks...
Author:  tl507362 [ Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:51 am ]
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On the way Tim!
Tracy
Author:  tl507362 [ Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:53 am ]
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Tim,
Email me at tl507362 AT yahoo.com so I can confirm your email address.
Tracy
Author:  RCoates [ Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:32 pm ]
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Tracy....

Well if you still want to send those notes out I'd love to see them.

wefour at sbcglobal dot net

Thnx
Author:  tl507362 [ Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:07 pm ]
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Ronn,
I just sent them. Enjoy!
Tracy
Author:  Brock Poling [ Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:11 pm ]
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Well I hate to be left out. Would you send them to me too.

bpoling AT atomic-mail DOT com
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