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| Author: | Jimmie D [ Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:15 am ] |
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Is it a good idea to put Loc-Tite or something like that on the neck bolts? The reason I ask is, the first guitar I made, after about 3 months, started sounding kind of funky. Come to find out, the neck bolts had backed out some. This being my first, I don't know whether I didn't get them tight enough for fear of cracking the neck or whether the vibrations over time caused them to loosen. |
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| Author: | John How [ Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:18 am ] |
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I don't use loctite on mine but I snug them pretty good using a screwdriver type hex wrench. You wouldn't want to torque them with any leverage. |
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| Author: | LanceK [ Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:30 am ] |
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I wick in a drop of CA into the threads after Ive turned them all the way into the heel. I use the anchor style bolts that thread into the end grain. So far, after 3 years, none have loosened. |
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| Author: | John How [ Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:57 am ] |
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Jimmie, are you talking about the bolt itself backing out or the threaded insert? I assumed you meant the bolt. I don't use threaded inserts, I use barrel nuts or cross dowels on my necks. |
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| Author: | Jimmie D [ Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:30 am ] |
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John, I'm talking about the actual bolt itself. I wicked CA into the insert afer it was screwed in. Actally the guitar that the bolts came loose on had the cross dowels.As I recall I think I didn't want to get them too tight for fear of cracking the neck. That may be the reason they backed out on me. |
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| Author: | JJ Donohue [ Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:39 am ] |
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I use Bellville washers to keep tension on the bolts. Supposed to keep the bolts from loosening. |
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| Author: | johno [ Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:20 am ] |
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[QUOTE=JJ Donohue] I use Bellville washers to keep tension on the bolts. Supposed to keep the bolts from loosening.[/QUOTE] If that is what you call those conical washers, yup I use em too. |
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| Author: | Dave Rector [ Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:18 am ] |
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Does anyone have a source fo buying just the bellville washers? Does ACE or anyone like that carry them? |
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| Author: | johno [ Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:55 pm ] |
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I got my washers through McMaster Carr. They were expensive, but worth it, Its better than the neck falling off. I am sure you can hunt them down for less, but I order stuff from McMaster quite a bit so it was easy. |
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| Author: | arvey [ Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:20 pm ] |
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Do they also go by another Name. Over the last few years I'vre asked about them a stores and no one seems to know what I am talking about. |
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| Author: | johno [ Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:55 pm ] |
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The also go by conical washer. I think these might be the ones I got Goto McMasterCarr.com 9294K59 There are many others, so that might be them, but it is a decent example. |
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| Author: | Howard Klepper [ Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:19 pm ] |
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I've used bellville washers (from MSC), but I'm not sure they are sufficient; they are very small, and if they are bearing against wood on the inside surface they could wear into the wood and lose their tensioning effect. I think they need a hard washer underneath. Even with them I like to use a drop of blue locktite. No reason you can't use both. |
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