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Does anyone know where you can get 2 piece reversed kerfing, the kind that C Fox is using??

I could but my own but would rather buy some bulk to just have it on hand...

Thanks

-Paul-

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Paul Woolson may have some for sale?

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Davis, How much you need? And what material do you want it made from? Aspen is what I use most often as it mills very well. WR Cedar is ok but chips pretty badly as does Cedro. Drop me a line and let me know.

A couple of questions first if you don't mind

1. I assume Aspen is a variety of Spruce?? if so that's fine then, I don't like cedar for steel strings (great for classicals though). Just standard spruce will do.

2. What are the dimensions of the pieces? personally I think the ones that Charles uses are a little *too* wide.

3. How thick is the cap piece?

Here is why I am asking...

I will be doing venetians with this, I want to keep everything light and only build up as much as needed and no more, if you looked at James Russells back and sides in his booth he had to crack the outer piece to go around the inner curve of the cutaway and I think that's because the piece was too thick (you can also soak it in warm water to soften the wood).

If you can work within those params then I'll take 24 pieces of them to start with and you can charge me what you think is fair

Not trying to be difficult (well maybe just a little cause I know you ) but I'm trying to achieve a certain goal in my building...

Let me know...

Thanks

-Paul-Sprockett38590.9816898148

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Hey Paul,
Aspen is deciduous, spruce is coniferous. A lot of builders also use basswood for kerfing. I have a bunch of unkerfed spruce and mahogany strips but it sounds like you want the finished product.

Shane

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Thanks Shane...

What I'm looking for is LIGHTNESS...

Hence my preferences for spruce...

-Paul-

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For sure Paul.

I have thought of making a slotting table for kerfing and may do that but I am not there yet and that dosen't help you. But I do have a bunch of 34 inch spruce, some in stips, some still in billets waiting for me to process them. So if Paul is set up to cut the kerfs and needs spruce to get them together for you we may be able to help you out. But it sounds like a lot of shipping so if you can can find what you are looking for that may be better, but if you can't we can certainly get you what you want at least to see if it is going to work for you.

Shane

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If Woolson doesn't wimp out, I'll place and order with you and ship it over to his place, he can keep the extra and I'll still pay him to cut it up

-Paul-

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I'll stand by and see what Paul has. He may have spruce handy already. But if you need some surely let me know.

Thanks

Shane

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Either way. I'm pretty sure I've got some spruce but I've had bad luck with it chipping out too. The milling process on these is a bugger if you can imagine the little lip where the cap strip sits flush. That's what wants to blow out which is bad because that's what you see.
The Aspen is indeed NOT a spruce. Very light "hard" wood. I found it to weight 2 grams per complete strip more than WRC so it's pretty insignificant. My cap strips are very very thin. It's been awhile since I've milled up any but I think they are about .040" thick. I bend them around my cutaways just fine. Though a quick stent in the bender will make your life much easier.
Let me know.

Deal...

PM me how much and I'll get some money off to you, 2 ounces I can deal with especially if spruce is hard to mill for this...

-Paul-

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Hey Paul (W), if you are milling these for Paul (D) and want to make a few more I will buy a few sets too. If you are not milling them then I won't deplete your stash.   

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[QUOTE=Sprockett] Deal...

PM me how much and I'll get some money off to you, 2 ounces I can deal with especially if spruce is hard to mill for this...

-Paul-[/QUOTE]

2 Grams, not ounces. As there are 28.3 grams to the ounce (imperial) that's about 1/14th ounce each or about 1/3 ounce for all four combined. I don't think you'd notice!

Colin

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I light weight triangular and reverse Sitka spruce kerf if you're interested.

Steve

Steve do you cut that stuff yourself? Paul and I talked this morning (early of course because he's in a different time zone) and I want to try a modified version of Fox's design.

What I want is some standard spruce kerfing with about 1/8" added to the flat portion (a little wider), then I'll mill that section out on my router and make some small spruce caps for it and see how that works.

One thing Paul told me was that the Fox design is so TALL because it has to take into acount the curve of the back, but you can bend standard kerfing a little with some coaxing and warm water, so I'm looking for the best of both worlds. The lightness and flexibility of spruce kerfing and the strength of a locking cap on top.

Paul is still going to make me some but he's got a clients guitar on the table so I'll use the time to experiment a little...

-Paul-

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Just curious, why can't you cut it and bend it as you would bindings?