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Author: | ecklesweb [ Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:51 am ] |
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Hello all - I'm working on my second guitar, my first acoustic and this is the first time I've built my own neck. I've got my scarf joint cut and glued and my heel block stacked and glued. I've finally figured out what I'm going to do about nut width (1 7/8") and string spacing at the bridge, so I'm going to draw my layout tonight. What I need is some help choosing the truss rod design most likely to make me successful in my little endeavor here. I'm building a 000 size guitar, a 24.9" scale (planning on mahogany b&s and some species of spruce top). The neck is honduran mahogany. The neck/body joint will be a mortise and tennon with two bolts and gluing the fingerboard to the top. I'd prefer to adjust the rod from inside the body rather than at the headstock. I'm looking at the different rod designs available, and not sure what I should go with. 1. a compression rod sure does look easy to install, but doesn't seem like it gives all that much adjustability in the event I screw something up a tiny bit. I wonder if that ease of installation doesn't come back to bite you in the butt. 2. a two-way rod sure takes care of the cons of a compression rod, but it's a bit of a deep channel. Is it true that if the rod has square stock for the top rod you don't need to glue in a spline? That would make it bit shallower for sure. I appreciate the fudge-factor this style seems to allow. 3. a martin-style rod certainly seems the traditional route to go, since I'm more or less replicating a 000-18. Don't know the practical differences between it and a two-way rod. 4. there are of course several other designs out there, and I could make my own ala Cumpiano, but I don't think I'm *that* ambitious. Plus, it's not wood, so I'd probably go through more than my share of material before I got one right. Thanks for any advice you guys can provide on this topic for me. Jay Eckles |
Author: | Serge Poirier [ Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:59 am ] |
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HI Jay, welcome to the OLF, just wait a bit, a lot to choose from in a couple of posts from now ! ![]() I can't really help you but others will soon chime in. Serge |
Author: | Brock Poling [ Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:19 am ] |
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I use the StewMac hot rod in everything I build. |
Author: | L. Presnall [ Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:29 am ] |
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I'm using the LMI-type two way rod that Hesh uses, but Allied Luthierie sells them cheaper...If you go to LMI, DO NOT get the "Martin-style" two way rod they sell...it is EVIL ![]() ![]() |
Author: | peterm [ Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:32 am ] |
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I use the StewMac hot rod and the LMI Martin style two-way rod. It depends on your preference. Both work great! |
Author: | Dickey [ Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:10 pm ] |
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3/16" compression Here is a link. http://luthiersforum.3element.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID= 3922&KW=compression+rod#forumTop |
Author: | Mattia Valente [ Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:51 pm ] |
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StewMac HotRod here, every guitar I've built so far, and I'll continue to do so. No fillet strip needed, and there are installation instructions under 'free info' at StewMac's website. Not the shallowest rod, but I've never had a problem making normal sized necks. I always pair it with 2 CF rods, not that they're strictly necessary. |
Author: | L. Presnall [ Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:53 pm ] |
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Peterm, I'm intrigued...do you plan to put up a website? I'd love to see your work...I always enjoy getting a guitar into the hands of a gifted worship leader.... ![]() |
Author: | DaleH [ Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:18 pm ] |
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Hot Rod here also |
Author: | ecklesweb [ Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:40 am ] |
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Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. Since most seem to go with the two-way or a Hot Rod (which looks like Stewmac's version of a two-way), I think that's the route I'm going to go. Think I'm going to get my stuff from Allied. |
Author: | TonyKarol [ Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:47 am ] |
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Allied rods - by (buy) the dozen !! |
Author: | L. Presnall [ Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:35 am ] |
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What Tony said! ![]() |
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