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Author: | zac_in_ak [ Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:19 pm ] |
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I am amassing the tools for luthiery(is that a word?) ![]() I was looking at some of the stanley sureform tools that look like they do the job of a rasp. Anyone tried them out or have an opinion. Thanks Zac |
Author: | Dickey [ Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:27 pm ] |
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Take a look at Microplane products too as you are looking. Kinda like a cheese grater for wood. I have two and would recommend them. Cheap enough too. |
Author: | Scott Thompson [ Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:25 pm ] |
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Also look at the Shinto Japanese Saw Rasp. I preferr the ones without the planer handle. http://www.dilegnosupply.com/Files-Rasps-Shapers/shinto_saw_ rasps.htm |
Author: | Mattia Valente [ Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:10 pm ] |
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I'm not a huge fan of Sureforms; they're never quite sharp enough. The microplane stuff (fits surform handles) is much, much sharper, although it can dull a bit quickly, and I like it quite a lot. And I second the Shinto saw rasp reccomendation. Great tool. For all that, I still use my half-round rasp. A lot. So much so that I'm pondering getting a Nicholson #49 or so. |
Author: | CarltonM [ Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:56 am ] |
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I like the Surform for hogging off wood, but it leaves a REALLY rough finish. It's not good for detail work at all. The Microplane can leave a pretty smooth finish, but, in my experience, it dulls very quickly. I'm still using a Surform blade I bought before I bought the more expensive Microplane blade, which went into the trash long ago. The saw rasp works very well, lasts a long time (I'm still using one I bought about ten years ago, though it's only gotten regular use in the last three), and leaves a pretty smooth, controllable surface. It's too wide, though, for detail work, like shaping a heel. The Nicholson #49 and #50 rasps are superior, hard-working, tools that cut fast and smoothly, can be used for larger details (headstock/heel transitions), and will last for many years with reasonable care. |
Author: | DaleH [ Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:12 pm ] |
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I use both depending on the job, but I diidn't like the Stanley surforms very much. They didn't cut very well for me. |
Author: | ATaylor [ Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:42 pm ] |
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I picked up a Stanley sureform a couple weekends ago and realized the same issue: doesn't cut. I took it back. |
Author: | crowduck [ Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:48 pm ] |
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Haven't bought one yet, but StewMac has recently added these to their catalog. Not cheap, but look pretty good. http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Files/1/Dragon_Hand-cut_Ra sps.html CrowDuck |
Author: | klhoush [ Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:07 am ] |
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In my remodeling business we use Sureforms to true up sheetrock edges. They are supposed to be good for surfboards too. I never considered using it for wood when there are so many power tools for that! Kurt |
Author: | DaleH [ Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:59 am ] |
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I use them for shaping the neck profile. The only power tool that I know of that would acomplish that would maybe be a CNC $$$ |
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