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| Author: | Laurent Brondel [ Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:13 am ] |
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Anybody has a phone # or email address for this company? I'm looking for vintage looking celluloid material. |
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| Author: | Alain Desforges [ Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:04 am ] |
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Here you go Laurent... Deep River Vintage ,26 Spring St., Deep River, CT 06417 860-526-5315 Vintage style tortoise celluloid for Martin pickguards. |
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| Author: | Laurent Brondel [ Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:22 am ] |
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Merci Alain, this is the # I tried before and it's no longer in service. Any other contact info guys? |
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| Author: | burbank [ Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:18 am ] |
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Laurent, Here's an email address. csotcek@gowebway.com |
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| Author: | Laurent Brondel [ Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:05 am ] |
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Thanks Pat, tried that too from the luthier supplies list Sylvan Wells put out. Got a "unvalid/unknown email address" reply. |
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| Author: | Colonial Tonwds [ Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:02 pm ] |
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Henry retired about 2 years ago. |
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| Author: | Laurent Brondel [ Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:52 am ] |
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oh… Any other sources for celluloid m aterial? |
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| Author: | John Lewis [ Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:54 am ] |
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Laurent- Try John Greven's TorTis webpage. I'm not sure if this is what you are after but it's the only thing I know of like this. I'm not sure if he sells in sheet form or not. Give him a call, he is usually busy but is very nice if you can get ahold of him. His number is (503) 233-8525 and his email is grevenguitars@msn.com. Good Luck- |
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| Author: | tippie53 [ Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:25 am ] |
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tortise and celuloid are 2 different products. |
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| Author: | Laurent Brondel [ Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:09 am ] |
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Yeah, I like Tortis very much and use it regularly, but I'm looking for celluloid sheets. Like '50 or '60 style with the yellow, red and black thing. Any idea? |
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| Author: | RussellR [ Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:55 am ] |
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Have you tried LMI ? Is this what you are after ? LMI Sheets |
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| Author: | Laurent Brondel [ Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:21 am ] |
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Yes, the LMI sheets are not real celluloid. At least the good looking ones (non pastrami looking…). The Tor-tis looking sheets are transparent sheets with a print on one side, a bit like the cheezy guards Martin uses, but better looking. |
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| Author: | RussellR [ Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:28 am ] |
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Laurent I seem to remember (and I could be wrong about this) that celluloid had been clasified as hazadous (flammable) for transport and storage, so I don't know if this has naything to do with why you are having trouble finding some. |
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| Author: | Arnt Rian [ Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:04 am ] |
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Yes, Stewmac stopped supplying ivorid because of hazardous materials shipping restrictions, and panic spread in the mandolin world! However, I believe Martin, Grizzly and Saga still have it, as well as this guy (who I have only bought mando tailpieces from, but he started selling the stuff after Stewmac stopped and he has LOTS!): Cellouid nitrate materials |
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| Author: | Mario [ Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:21 am ] |
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The Tor-tis looking sheets are transparent sheets with a print on one side Careful with the terminology and names. Tor-Tis is a name brand for a product that is cast with the color within it, all handmade. John Greven came up with the process, and all Tor-tis pickguard and sheets are made by Turtleworks. Excellent pickguards! And to add confusion, there are now Tor-Tis picks which are made from a natural protein product, which is a whole other things again(basically, it is cultured tortoise shell). Excellent picks, BTW... The stuff you talk of with the print is a whole 'nuther deal... Ugh... |
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| Author: | Laurent Brondel [ Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:01 pm ] |
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Careful with the terminology and names. I'm talking about the pickguard sheets LMI sells, which look a bit like Tor- tis, but ARE NOT Tor-tis (I know they sell Tor-tis sheets as well…). Those NON-TORTIS are transparent sheets with a print on the underside. They look OK, not great, and do not have the depth or detail of Tor-tis PG material. I hope I'm being clear enough… That being said I'm still looking for *real* old-fashioned, dangerous and flamable celluloid. |
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| Author: | Mario [ Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:00 am ] |
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which look a bit like Tor-is, but ARE NOT Tor-tis (I know they sell Tor-tis sheets as well…). Those NON-TORTIS are transparent sheets with a print on the underside Argh! You're doing it again! 
What you're talking about are the plastic tortoise sheets, not the Tor-tis(or Tortis) sheets. Note the spelling. One or two letters, but a big difference that can lead to much confusion. |
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| Author: | Brad Goodman [ Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:49 am ] |
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Try Delmar in CT. |
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| Author: | Laurent Brondel [ Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:33 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Mario] Argh! You're doing it again! What you're talking about are the plastic tortoise sheets, not the Tor-tis(or Tortis) sheets. Note the spelling. One or two letters, but a big difference that can lead to much confusion.[/QUOTE] Mario, I know what I am talking about, you're the one who doesn't understand me. Perhaps my French accent?… Here is the LMI pickguard Tortis imitation sheet: 
As you can see it looks a bit like Tortis (which is a tortoise imitation…) although it is not Tortis, but a clear plastic material with a print on the underside. Looks better than what Martin puts on the GE series -at least the LMI sheet does not show the matrix pixelated pattern-, but no comparison with *real* Tortis material, see below. Here is some real Tortis (or Tor-tis): 
This is Deep River Vintage celluloid "tortoise": 
This is what I want to avoid with celluloid sheets (the pastrami look): 
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| Author: | Laurent Brondel [ Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:38 am ] |
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Arnt, thanks much for the website. They seems to be vending only binding strips, and not the kind of celluloid I'm looking for. |
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| Author: | Mario [ Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:46 am ] |
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<shaking head...> Laurent, I know what you're saying, and I know what you're talking of, I am just trying to get you to use the proper phargling terms. The stuff you keep refering to is plastic imitation tortoise. There is only one product named Tor-Tis™(and none are called "Tortis", which isn't a word). Tor-Tis is available in many, many variations, even custom ones. So, please, there's Tor-Tis, and there tortoise colored/patterned plastic. And there's tortoise colored/patterned celluloid. Quit saying there's plastic tortis. Let's nip this one in the bud before it becomes the next kerfings fiasco. There are many different facial tissues, but only one is Kleenex. Same here. Have you called GW Muscial? They may have what you're looking for. |
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| Author: | RussellR [ Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:12 am ] |
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Laurent The PGSLT at LMI maybe celluloid, the only reason I say this is that they won't Air Freight this one, which means it is hazadous for shipping, whereas the others they will. Might be worth calling and asking, that is of course if it is the right colour etc. |
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| Author: | Laurent Brondel [ Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:47 pm ] |
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[QUOTE=Mario] Quit saying there's plastic tortis. Let's nip this one in the bud before it becomes the next kerfings fiasco. Have you called GW Muscial? They may have what you're looking for. [/QUOTE] ???????? I never refered to plastic Tortis!!!! I merely mentionned one product LMI sells, which in my mind is meant to emulate the pattern found in the '50 Tortis pickguards… Misunderstandings… I'm downloading GW catalog, thanks for the tip. |
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| Author: | Laurent Brondel [ Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:48 pm ] |
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[QUOTE=RussellR] The PGSLT at LMI maybe celluloid, the only reason I say this is that they won't Air Freight this one, which means it is hazadous for shipping, whereas the others they will. [/QUOTE] Yes it is celluloid, I've ordered it before. But I do not like the pattern and it's a little thin. |
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| Author: | Jim Watts [ Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:41 pm ] |
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I bet if you talk to John Greven he can get you the look your after. His pickgaurds are expensive in comparision, but the quality is high it's worth it, at least for me. It's not celluloid, but it's great material. Oh, it also won't shrink like celluloid. |
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