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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:32 am ] |
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Craig asked that rather than him deciding on the peghead design, that there be a discussion on ideas for the peghead inlay. Keep in mind that this is an appreciation for contributions to luthierie and get well soon gift. But I think little attention on the guitar should be paid to the fact that the recipient is ill. So pony up your ideas. Please the recipient’s name is not to be use on the forum, in order to maintain the surprise factor |
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| Author: | Bruce Dickey [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:02 am ] |
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How about a famous character. In keeping with Craig's Americana Theme, I nominate Samuel Clemmons, otherwise known as Mark Twain for the headstock. Then maybe on the fretboard, one of his famous quips. |
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| Author: | Pwoolson [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:14 pm ] |
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I haven't chimed in here because I honestly don't have an opinion. (there's a first, eh) I prefer the simple look of no inlay but I know I'm in the minority there and I really want Craig to be part of this build. So I'm pretty much game for anything. How 'bout nekkid mudflap ladies? |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:52 pm ] |
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How about simple Japanese lettering symbols for the following in MOP; I have a friend at work that can give me the symboles 3rd fret: Wood 5th fret: Glue 7th fret: Steel 9th fret: Passion 12th fret: Devotion 15th fret: Persaverance 17th fret: Music and the peghead: A Craftsman's Dream |
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| Author: | LanceK [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:56 am ] |
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Michael, that is a VERY interesting idea! I likeit a lot! |
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| Author: | Brock Poling [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:20 am ] |
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I think it is an intersting idea, but just curious, why japanese characters? |
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| Author: | Bruce Dickey [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:59 am ] |
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American guitar, Japanese characters? Mark Twain seems to fit better with Sitting Bull and Wild Bill Cody and an "American" theme. Or we could do fish, fish is good, I like fish. Mudflap ladies, Paul, I'm telling my wife on you. She detests those things. Have you seen the commercial lately where she comes alive, walks to the passenger door of the new glitzy pickup and gets in? I know you are joking.  |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:31 am ] |
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Purely for the simplicity of the shapes esthetics and meanings behind the symbols in reference to the thought behind the gift. It is just an idea. Did not mean to offend if I did. No national implications meant. Kanji(sp?) is often used in many medias to symbolize a given meaning or devotion. With all due respect to Craig this is a dedication guitar. My idea and request was for ideas with a implications toward that theme of the build. I think that the Mark Twain idea has merit if it can be tied into a short saying that expresses the sentiment of the gift. But whatever we choose should reflect the thought and feelings behind the build. Come on guys more Ideas |
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| Author: | Pwoolson [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:28 am ] |
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From Twain's Letters From the Earth : All are on an equality absolute, no one of them ranking another; they have to be "brothers"; they have to mix together, pray together, harp together, hosannah together... |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:01 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Pwoolson] From Twain's Letters From the Earth : All are on an equality absolute, no one of them ranking another; they have to be "brothers"; they have to mix together, pray together, harp together, hosannah together...[/QUOTE] I don't think the fretboard is long enough 
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| Author: | Bruce Dickey [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:29 am ] |
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Sitting Bear 
Wild Bill Cody 
A Twain story: The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County (fretboard maybe with a species indigenous to the Mississippi) A Bullfrog 
Mark Twain LAUGHTER Will a day come when the race will detect the funniness of these juvenilities and laugh at them--and by laughing at them destroy them? For your race, in its poverty, has unquestionably one really effective weapon--laughter. Power, Money, Persuasion, Supplication, Persecution--these can lift at a colossal humbug,--push it a little-- crowd it a little--weaken it a little, century by century: but only Laughter can blow it to rags and atoms at a blast. Against the assault of Laughter nothing can stand. - The Chronicle of Young Satan, Mysterious Stranger Manuscripts |
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| Author: | Bruce Dickey [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:31 am ] |
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Be good, and you will be lonesome! Twain I never heard that one. |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:54 am ] |
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Bruce did you get my last 2 emails??? |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:08 am ] |
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How do we tie it into the reason or sentiment of the gift? I am not requiring or demanding that we do one thing or the other. But to me if we are giving the guitar in recognition for his luthierie contrabutions and heart felt consern, then I think it would mean more if the theme tied into that. I think the odds of Mark Twain having a short quip that reflects that are good. But I also think that this may be more than Craig bargined for as a donation. |
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| Author: | Cocephus [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:53 am ] |
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Maybe fit in a sternwheeler steam boat? Or perhaps a ship`s wheel? |
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| Author: | Bruce Dickey [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:59 am ] |
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[QUOTE=MichaelP] I think the odds of Mark Twain having a short quip that reflects that are good.[/QUOTE] While having lunch, it occurred to me that Twain's most famous character is Huck Finn, either floating downriver on a raft or painting the fence. Both would lend themselves to great inlay. The gift is the sentiment, and the more outrageous the inlays and more meaning they stir, the better. I just know any artist needs a great subject to be inspired. His call. Let's not vote, but be pleasantly surprised by Craig's genius. |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:11 am ] |
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I stated no vote But Craig asked for some input on ideas |
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| Author: | Bruce Dickey [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:30 am ] |
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Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. Mark Twain Mark Twain The holy passion of Friendship is of so sweet and steady and loyal and enduring a nature that it will last through a whole lifetime, if not asked to lend money. Mark Twain Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed. Mark Twain It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog. Mark Twain Wrinkles should merely indicate where smiles have been. After all these years, I see that I was mistaken about Eve in the beginning; it is better to live outside the Garden with her than inside it without her.-- Adam's Diary "Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul." (inscription beneath his bust in the Hall of Fame) "Good breeding consists of concealing how much we think of ourselves and how little we think of the other person." "It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt." 
"I think a compliment ought always to precede a complaint, where one is possible, because it softens resentment and insures for the complaint a courteous and gentle reception." Humor is the great thing, the saving thing. The minute it crops up, all our irritations and resentments slip away and a sunny spirit takes their place. "Always do right. That will gratify some of the people, and astonish the rest." |
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| Author: | Bruce Dickey [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:50 am ] |
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Tom Sawyer paintin' the fence. http://www.nrm.org/exhibits/traveling/  |
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| Author: | Brock Poling [ Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:16 pm ] |
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I think we need to keep this to contributions in lutherie. One idea is to stick to the tools of the trade, cam clamps, a hhg pot, chisels, wood shavings, planes, sandpaper, tuners, stuff like that. Pieces and parts. That would be cool. Another idea would be to focus on what the fruits of the lutherie labor produces, toddlers dancing, people listening to music clapping hands, people singing, and old blues dude sittin on a stump thumping out a tune. Maybe something like that. I think some of the other artwork suggestions are cool, but I just don't see the connection with this guitar. |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:14 am ] |
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I agree with Brock that the theme need to be vocused on the reason for the gift. Maybe a peghead inlay with a luthier carving braces on the top and the rim and back assembly on his bench in the background, and keep the Fretboard simple markers or tools of the trade. |
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| Author: | LanceK [ Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:31 pm ] |
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Michael, Brock, I like this idea, sort of a Laskinish engraved inlay. |
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| Author: | Arnt Rian [ Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:46 am ] |
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I'm a total outsider here (and I'm not entirely sure what you are discussing, a charity guitar right?), and you all probably know this already, but Mark Twain was also an avid guitar player according to the book "Martin Guitars". There is a picture of his guitar in the book. |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:39 am ] |
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Arnt, this a surprise build, gift for a person going through some tough times right now. This person is intimately involved in the luthierie business. The guitar is a gift to show our appreciation for this person’s contributions to luthierie and best wishes from use here at OLF. I cant really give more info an keep the secret. I love the idea of Mark Twain but have a hard time making a intimate tie to the reason of the gift. |
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