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Author: | peterm [ Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:13 am ] |
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After reading Hesh's post on climb cuts led me to wonder on another routing cut question. When I try to rout my headstock I use a template cut router bit with either my handheld router or a table router and the same proble always occurs....TEAR OUT ![]() ![]() I've seen many people routing hardwoods with no problems, and John Mayes also uses the same technique with no problems.....(i think) maybe I am using the wrong bit or is there a better way to do this job? Any help would be EXTREMELLY apreciated. TIA |
Author: | EBarajas [ Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:40 am ] |
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I use a spiral downcut bit with no problems. |
Author: | Brock Poling [ Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:02 am ] |
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Think about where the chip out is occuring and then change the order of your cuts. Here is an example. I have a fingerboard routing templates that size my boards perfectly. However I ***KNOW*** that I need to route the body end of the board first because it always takes a little hunk out of the edge as I come off the board. Then I route the two long tapered edges. That way it ends up perfectly clean. The area with the chip out gets removed. Another thing you can do is cut the stock VERY close to the template. That also helps with chip out. It isn't fool proof, but it works pretty well. |
Author: | Barry Daniels [ Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:56 am ] |
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Peter, what size is your router? When I upgraded to a 1/2" spindle machine a few years ago, I discovered that most of my routing chipout problems disappeared. |
Author: | Mattia Valente [ Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:14 am ] |
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Robosander/cutting very close to final works, and couple that with a solid, high-power router (like Barry says) and move the bit at the right rate (not too fast, not too slow), and chipout decreases. |
Author: | peterm [ Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:59 am ] |
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I think using the Robo-sander is a great idea! ![]() Thanks for the input, I'll try that nest time.... |
Author: | John Mayes [ Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:50 pm ] |
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take as little cuts as possible, and pay attention not to run too much into the grain with runout. I use a shear cut pattern bit. |
Author: | arvey [ Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:54 pm ] |
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On operations like this what speeds (RPM) so you find best, high speed or slower? |
Author: | John Mayes [ Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:14 pm ] |
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it all depends on the wood and the feed rate. Faster speed means you can move faster, but I prefer slower speeds and slower feed rate. |
Author: | peterm [ Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:51 am ] |
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John, a shear cut pattern bit? But those don't cut straight do they? I thought a shear cut pattern bit would cut at an angle... Now you really got me confused! Can you let me know how your bits look like? Thanks ![]() |
Author: | Mattia Valente [ Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:06 am ] |
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I *think* shear cutters are essentially like spiral cutters; the blade doesn't intersect the wood at a right angle. Me, I like fairly high speeds on small bits, and keep things moving. Less tearout that way. As long as you keep things moving. |
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