Thanks Ron and Michael
Michael apologies I was having a bit of a brain storm, you mentioned LMI Rods and I start asking you about Allieds ones
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| Author: | Kim [ Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:40 pm ] |
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Hi All I want to get a few truss rods shipped over, stewmacs dual action hot rods look good. Any better priced equal performance alternatives that you know of before I commit? Cheers Kim |
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| Author: | Colin S [ Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:46 pm ] |
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I must say that I prefer the flat topped rods from Gotoh, LMI or Allied Luthierie. I think Allied , a sponsor here, does them for about $14. The flat topped rods require no fillet and need a slightly shallower slot. Colin |
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| Author: | Mattia Valente [ Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:48 pm ] |
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I like Stewmac's hotrods, all I've used to date, and I've got a sizeable pile I'll be using for the foreseeable future. They need a slightly deeper slot, yes, but unless you're building skinny, skinny necks that's hardly an issue (the deeper the rod's placed, the more effective). Neither requires a fillet. Are Allied's dual action rods Gotoh? Because it doesn't say who makes the things. I honestly don't particularly care whether the things have a flat top or not. Not like it's getting glued to anything anyway... |
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| Author: | Serge Poirier [ Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:00 pm ] |
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I know Shane here has nice single action foe $12 each. |
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| Author: | arvey [ Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:31 am ] |
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I have used a number of rods, the standard, one way Martin type, a 2 way martin style (from Gotoh I believe,) and the hot rods. Ussually I just use the one way adjustable but otherwise I like th Hot rods. The 2 way Goto one I used seemed to just bend the ends up or down instead of the whole neck, I'm not sure how to explain it but I just didn't like the way they worked. |
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| Author: | Colby Horton [ Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:32 am ] |
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I like the Hot Rod truss rods. The flat top rods from LMI and Allied seem a little weak. |
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| Author: | old man [ Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:56 am ] |
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kWhat Colin said. I'm using the Allied rods. Good price on twelve or more. (I think only about $9 each), could be wrong. A single flute 1/4" cuts a perfect, tight channel. A two fluted bit is a bit loose. Ron |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:27 am ] |
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I use LMI's TRSD double action rods they fit my .250" slots the Hot Rods from Stewmac require a .218" slot |
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| Author: | RussellR [ Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:37 am ] |
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Michael I was looking at Allieds ones as an alternative, what depthe of slot do they require. |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:07 am ] |
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I will check Russ I don't know off the top of my head |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:09 am ] |
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Looks just like The TRSD .250 wide x .375 deep Allied seems to be a better price. |
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| Author: | old man [ Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:29 am ] |
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Russell, they are 1/4 wide by 3/8 deep. And in lots of 12 or more they drop from $14 down to only $7.50 each. What a deal. You can buy 12 cheaper than 10! Ron |
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| Author: | CarltonM [ Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:30 am ] |
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FYI--I've bought two-way rods from LMI, Allied and Stew-Mac--a couple from each. In my limited experience, the Stew-Mac Hot Rods have, by far, the best workmanship. The Allied rods were the worst--sloppy welds on both and a torn heat-shrink on one. All the rods from Allied and LMI had some degree of twist in the solid (top) bar; other problems, too, but I can't remember right now which problem went with which company. |
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| Author: | MSpencer [ Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:34 am ] |
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I use the StewMac Hot Rod and have been very happy. Never used the others so I cannot speak good or bad. Mike White Oak, Texas |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:37 am ] |
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Out of 24 rods I have gotten from LMI I have had not twist in the bar nor bad welds. I have never used the Allied so can't say there. |
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| Author: | CarltonM [ Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:53 am ] |
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[QUOTE=MichaelP] Out of 24 rods I have gotten from LMI I have had not twist in the bar nor bad welds. [/QUOTE] I'm glad you mentioned that. Mine were bought several years ago, and perhaps they've improved their quality control; or, perhaps I just happened to get the two-out-of-twenty-thousand that were bad. I didn't return them or complain, so I didn't give them the chance to make it right. For better or worse, though, I bet I'm like a lot of people, in that I tend to stop buying a product if I've been burned once. Just a reminder to folks who make and sell things. |
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| Author: | Colin S [ Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:00 am ] |
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I've got locally bought Gotoh rods now but always used the LMI rods before and have never had a single rod, out of about a dozen, that were anything other than perfect. Colin |
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| Author: | John How [ Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:11 am ] |
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I prefer the Allied/LMI design and have not had a problem with them. I am currently building a Stella style concert size guitar that will not have an adjustable truss rod. Just a carbor fiber bar. Allied has the 2 way adjustable priced at 3 rods for 9.50 ea |
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| Author: | RussellR [ Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:40 am ] |
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Thanks Ron and Michael Michael apologies I was having a bit of a brain storm, you mentioned LMI Rods and I start asking you about Allieds ones
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:42 am ] |
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no problem glad you did. I will try a batch of Allied now that I have seen them  |
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| Author: | peterm [ Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:22 am ] |
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I use a 2 way martin style from LMI .400 wide very sturdy and strong. to me the Hot Rods sound very practical in theory but don't feel as sturdy and strong in person. I have tryed both. Just my opinion anyway.
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:54 am ] |
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I thought Martin style channel type rods were one way. meaning you could only flex them one way either loaded or unloaded? |
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| Author: | arvey [ Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:09 am ] |
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There are two way "martin style" truss rods as well |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:16 am ] |
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I have seen 2 way advertised but what I got when orded was the same as what Martin puts in their kits which is one way rods. maybe I got took 
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