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Author:  Evan Heisler [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:37 am ]
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Hi everyone

I'm hoping to start on a small bodied guitar. Can anyone make some
recommendations? Feel free to post pics, I don't have anything too
specific in mind.

As I'm writing this, it seems Blues Creek is under construction, so I
haven't perused those plans yet.

I may just wait until the jumbo parlor plans become available here on the
OLF, but I am a big fan of the Santa Cruz 00, but I'm unsure of the
dimensions. Anyone have some sources?

Thanks in advance for any leads!

Author:  Bruce Dickey [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:25 am ]
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Martin or Gibson? I played a C10 Collings which is a Gibson L-00 rendition, and .... fell in love.

A guy named Dotson over at the Mimf from ElPaso, sent me a Gibson L-1 and I converted the shape to L-00 dimensions.

The first I built was off that conjured up shape and used my Martin bracing scheme. (overbuilt)

Then I saw a guy in Tennessee who had a top off an old L-00 Gibson. It had 1/4 inch bracing and a single finger brace.

So verbally, that's about it. Take a look at James Burkett's website, he may have pics of that old top up still.

Also, a guy was selling a L_00 BluesKing and was nice enough to send me a tracing of that guitar. When compared to my rendition it was very close, which amazed me. So I decided to stick with my originial L-00 shape. I do plan to follow the Gibson bracing scheme from now on for this model.

I have no info on a 00 Martin, but someone will.

Bruce Dickey38808.6566898148

Author:  Andy Zimmerman [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:19 am ]
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Evan
The guitar I just posted was an 0 Martin guitar. Not a 00 Martin. It is a nice
small body guitar. i got the form/mold from John
As far as plans, I talked to John and came up with my own design. We will
see how it works out

Author:  A Peebels [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:48 am ]
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I'm going to be measuring a Gibson 1930's 12 fret L-0 this week. I'll let youall know what I find (other than that the guitar is in immaculate condition and sounds and plays beautifully). A friend has it in his shop, so I better hurry before he sells it.

Al

Author:  Don Williams [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:05 am ]
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[QUOTE=Bruce Dickey] A guy named Dotson over at the Mimf from ElPaso[/QUOTE]

That be Mike Dotson! He hangs here also. Mike makes really cool "Weissonator" guitars.

Author:  Bruce Dickey [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:47 pm ]
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John Dodson, El Paso, I believe that is the fellow.

Author:  crowduck [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:33 pm ]
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Here's a shot of Gibson L-00 bracing.

CrowDuck





Author:  Evan Heisler [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:05 pm ]
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Thanks for the responses. I do like the old Gibson designs, although to
be honest, not a big fan of Gibson as a company. Seems like they have
really inconsistent building practices, but they were on the mark with
their 12 fretters. Is the L-00 similar in size to the Robert Johnsons?

Andy, I really like the design of your current build. That would also be in
the running I'd have to say. I think I'll have to get in contact with John
Hall.

Thanks everyone.

Author:  Mark Swanson [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:17 pm ]
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That's a nice bracing shot!
The MIMF does sell a L-00 plan, too. I don't know of anyone else that sells a plan of that type of guitar. It's a 14 fretter.

Author:  arvey [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:33 pm ]
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I have compared a 12 fret and a 14 fret gibson L-00 and what they seem to have done is just shift the whole top, soundhole and bracing back to fit the scale length. I do that for my models and it works well.

Author:  CarltonM [ Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:37 am ]
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I think Gibson had two L-OO designs...One like Chris posted above, and one earlier 12-fret design with a rounded lower bout, like Robert Johnson played.

Author:  arvey [ Sun Apr 02, 2006 5:29 am ]
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From what I read, the famous picture of Robert Johnson he is holding an L-0, aparently not even his, Ma Carter's as the story goes, but someone needed a picture so he grabbed what was there. Of course that was just story When you start talking about Gibson's though you find a lot of inconsistancies, Some have one lower sound bar some 2, some have one finger brace and some 2 per side. Do what works.

Author:  crowduck [ Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:59 am ]
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I have a Gibson, Nick Lucas Special Reissue 14 fret. I can measure the outside dimensions if you like, let me know.

CrowDuck

Author:  Bruce Dickey [ Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:40 am ]
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Chris, that would be great to have those dimensions and how bout some pics?   

I'd love to borrow that guitar for a week or so. bd

Author:  Dave Rector [ Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:51 am ]
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I just ran across 2 L-00's yesterday at a local music store. They were both painted black and it looked like it was original. Were they all black? Just asking cause these are the first ones I've seen.

Author:  Bruce Dickey [ Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:11 pm ]
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Were they Gibbys and how much did they want for them?

Author:  Dave Rector [ Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:00 am ]
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Yeah Bruce, they were Gibsons. I can't remember exactly but I think they were in the $1500-1600 range.

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