I was hoping to avoid doing that
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| Author: | LanceK [ Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:58 am ] |
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Does anyone know the taper of the Gurian pins we bulk ordered about a year ago? Thanks |
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| Author: | Don Williams [ Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:02 am ] |
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call and ask them! (206) 467 7990 |
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| Author: | LanceK [ Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:09 am ] |
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I was hoping to avoid doing that
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| Author: | Mario [ Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:15 am ] |
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5 degrees |
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| Author: | Pwoolson [ Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:20 am ] |
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Gurian pins are 3•. I ask them pretty much every time I talk to them because there is a misnomer out there that they are 5•. But they always tell me 3• |
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| Author: | Mario [ Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:51 am ] |
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I stand corrected |
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| Author: | Howard Klepper [ Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:19 am ] |
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I am still mad at them. We asked twice if they were going to send us 5? pins, and even mentioned that we read elsewhere (LMI) that they are 3?, and they twice assured us that we were getting 5?. I think the sales person had no idea and was the type who just says whatever she thinks the buyer wants to hear, regardless of whether it's true. The alternatives are that they really don't know what they make, or that she was lying. None of these alternatives give me any confidence in ordering from them again. I reamed a bridge on a nice guitar with a 5? reamer for these pins before figuring out why the pins never fit tight. Then I had a problem getting any pins to fit. Their pins are not nearly as nicely finished as the ones you get from StewMac, either. Anyone want some 3? unslotted ebony and boxwood pins? Cheap. And why does this system mess up the formatting of paragraphs that I haven't edited when I edit a different paragraph? |
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| Author: | LanceK [ Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:51 am ] |
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" And why does this system mess up the formatting of paragraphs that I haven't edited when I edit a different paragraph?"" I'm confidant its because you use used a naughty word and the OLF formatting Gremlins didn't like it
Did I mention there is no swearing at the OLF?  |
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| Author: | Howard Klepper [ Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:41 am ] |
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Nope, it happens regardless. But I have edited my post to remove the word 'pissed.' That's swearing? |
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| Author: | Mattia Valente [ Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:47 am ] |
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Howard: actually...yes, I wouldn't mind some unslotted boxwood+ebony 3 degree pins... |
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| Author: | JJ Donohue [ Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:51 am ] |
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Wow...didn't know that was a naughty one. My vocabulary standards must be too low! |
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| Author: | Howard Klepper [ Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:20 am ] |
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Oops, I meant that offer rhetorically. I still have use for them after getting a 3? reamer. But email me your address and I'll send a set of each. |
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| Author: | Pwoolson [ Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:42 am ] |
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Howard, one thing you can do is put some thick CA on a cotton swab and coat the "walls" of the pin holes. Do this a couple of times and you can re-ream it and you'll be back in business. Yeah, I remember hearing two different numbers when we were doing that group buy. But every time I talked to them personally they told me 3?. If I'm not mistaken, I think some of the catalogs (LMI, StewMac, etc) list them as 5?. |
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| Author: | Mattia Valente [ Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:08 am ] |
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Heh, don't worry, I've got plenty of slotted pins, Howard, but thanks for the offer ;) |
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| Author: | Howard Klepper [ Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:49 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Pwoolson]Yeah, I remember hearing two different numbers when we were doing that group buy. But every time I talked to them personally they told me 3?. If I'm not mistaken, I think some of the catalogs (LMI, StewMac, etc) list them as 5?. [/QUOTE] What I remember is this with the numbers reversed. At least that's how you reported your conversations with them. Maybe my anger at them has been misdirected and it's really all your fault. 
[I've discovered that it helps to add lots of these faces; you can pretty much say anything and get away with it if you do]   |
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| Author: | Shane Neifer [ Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:42 pm ] |
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I just talked with Gurian today, well actually Edie at Gurian. She reports that their pins are 5 degrees, says she gets asked that a lot. I have a WHOLE punch of ebony pins that will be here this week or next . They are part of a couple of orders I placed with them about a month ago...so more goods a comin'.
Shane |
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| Author: | Howard Klepper [ Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:24 am ] |
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She's the problem. Wanna bet you don't get 5?? |
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| Author: | Mario [ Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:29 am ] |
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LOL.... |
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| Author: | Mario [ Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:32 am ] |
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Oh, by the way, if you buy by the gross, mark the year and save a few sets from each new gross you buy, in case one of your clients needs a replacement in time. Their new pins are getting smaller each year by a thou or two, but enough that they no longer fit right in the older pin holes. Guess their tooling is wearing. Time to find a Chinese souce for pins. Betcha the quality would be more consistent. Sad, but likely true. |
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| Author: | Pwoolson [ Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:10 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Howard Klepper] it's really all your fault.
[/QUOTE] Man, you sound like my wife.                               
I've only got a 3? reamer and they have worked great for me. So I'm pretty sure they really are 3?. But then again there could have been some sort of odd misbalance in the Earth's gravitational pull that causes tapers to swell at the points. Who knows. |
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| Author: | Shane Neifer [ Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:45 pm ] |
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Well....they should be here soon. I did order a gross so I will see if they are accurate to her specs. She says 5 degrees and .207 at the top of the taper. Good advise though Mario, I will keep some aside. I will let yall know! Shane |
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