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| Author: | Tim McKnight [ Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:00 pm ] |
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Yikes, with everyone jumping ship to Carpathian and Caucasian Spruce, Sitka and Engleman may become extinct 
They Euro woods are exceptionally great tonewoods and I am quickly becoming a convert as well. It's great to have so many choices to offer the customer and I am sure their heads are spinning too. I've got one guy who has been to my shop 3 times, contemplating wood choices and still can't make up his mind. |
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| Author: | Dennis E. [ Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:57 pm ] |
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Sounds like your customer really needs to buy two guitars! |
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| Author: | Don Williams [ Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:40 pm ] |
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The plus side to everyone wanting the Euro spruces like Carpathian, is that it might help to drive the prices of the native species down a bit, due to lower demand. Which may mean lower prices for Sitka and Englemann. I doubt it will ever affect the price of Adirondack though. Curiously, if you look at the poll here, the favorite top woods are Redwood and Adirondack (red) Spruce, at least for builders. I was frankly suprised at the popularity of redwood, but after coming into the large stash I have, I'm not suprised. It's amazing stuff. |
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| Author: | Mike Mahar [ Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:04 am ] |
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I'm building an engleman top right now. Englemen seems to have fallen out of favor. It seems a bit floppy compared to the sitka and red wood that I have, but I've always liked the look and sound of engleman. There seems to be a lot of mystique about top woods. I'm inclined to ignore most of it. Yes, the different woods sound different but does one wood sound better than the other? If so, define better. |
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| Author: | Bobc [ Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:15 am ] |
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Well I have to agree with Mike. Define better. Personally I think it's a lot of sales hype. I have read over and over again how engleman spruce from N. America is imported to Europe and sold back to us as German spruce or euro spruce. I like engleman a lot and you just can't go wrong with good old sitka and adirondack. But if it sells guitars I guess thats all that matters. I have some of Don's redwood thats awesome. I've built with cedar and like that too. I have some Doug fir that rings like a bell. I guess I'll stick with the addage that the builder has more to do with the sound than all these exotic named spruce's. 
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| Author: | Mike Mahar [ Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:20 am ] |
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I find it interresting that Brock's top wood poll left out sitka. I realize that it was just a test of the polling mechanism but I think there's some subliminal stuff going on as well :-) |
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| Author: | Brock Poling [ Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:55 am ] |
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I didn't leave it out. The poll truncated one of my selections. Sitka was the first one on the list. 
I think the problem has been fixed. |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:03 am ] |
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I like the Caucasian and Sitka color and tap tone better than Engelman |
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| Author: | John How [ Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:04 am ] |
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Personally I've had better luck with Addy than any other wood. My sitka guitars always have a great deal of fundamental tones that gives a sort of brassy sound and since I like a woody sort of sound with lots of harmonics I've had what I think is a better sound from Addy and Engleman. I haven't tried any of the new Euro woods or any of the old Euro woods for that matter. Cedar os nice too and I have yet to string up my redwood attemp. I still use Sitka but it's not my fav. |
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| Author: | Dave-SKG [ Wed Jan 05, 2005 11:01 am ] |
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Hi Tim, I'm a big fan of Bear Claw Sitka. If we ever get a Bear Claw Emgleman I might like that even more. |
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