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Author:  Bruce Dickey [ Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:30 am ]
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Here are two planes, Stanleys, that might make you a nice shooting board plane, currently both are $9.95 USD's. They are both on Ebay. I saw another but an OLFer is already bidding and I hope he gets it.

I have more planes than any man should rightfully have, so these won't be bid on by wirenut_2

Just search for Stanley No.7 or No.6 and you'll arrive at these also. Or you can put the above number in for search and find them that way. Bruce




Author:  ecklesweb [ Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:51 pm ]
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I predict the 6 goes for no less than $60 and the 7 for no less than $50.
Normally I'd guess 75-80+ for a jointer, but this one's got what looks like
some pretty bad rust on the sole right in front of the mouth. For what it's
worth, I'd warn off any fellow OLF'ers on the 7, but I could be wrong.

Author:  Miketobey [ Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:00 pm ]
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Bruce- same thought I had. I like the #6 for guitar sized shooting. If I can get to my good flat belt sander soon, I'll have the 2 # 5's and the # 4 ready to auction here. The 5's aren't bad for most guitar stuff, don't you agree? I think I will try to do a simple shooting board to add to the donation, so that whoever wins could start right up. As I'm sure you know there are some fairly nice 5's available on ebay at very attractive prices. Of course the detailing of set-up may not appeal to many here. My problem is that I like to work on the tools as much(maybe sometimes more because of confidence) as the guitar building.Another kick is bringing old but good quality steel chisels back to usable life. MT-Ps On the average a quite clean Bailey 7 will bring $75 plus easily. In the past two months Bedrocks have gotten ridiculous.Miketobey38877.9193171296

Author:  Bruce Dickey [ Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:47 pm ]
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I just am a sucker for an old plane. Rust sometimes is superficial. And the metal in some of the old steel is pretty good. Let the Buyer Beware. Then come enjoy my collection. Keep the good ones, get rid of the junk. That's what an old car dealer told me once.

Author:  Miketobey [ Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:07 am ]
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Todd- aren't you over on the woodnet handtools forum some? The hanging holes, if not just hogged out don't bother me so much. I wouldn't do it myself, but storing a load of planes could be much easier if the makers had just gone ahead and done it at the factory. I can't imagine it affecting the quality of use. I'm glad my Bedrocks havent suffered that, but a couple of my Baileys were bought that way and it doesn't drive me nuts.MT

Author:  Jeff Doty [ Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:28 am ]
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Thanks for the link Bruce, and all the information everyone. I bid on the #6. I need to save money, but if I can get it for a good deal, it would be worth it. Shipping would be cheap, since the seller is in the Portland area.

Now if I win, I will need help getting it tuned!

Jeff


Author:  ecklesweb [ Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:40 am ]
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[QUOTE=ToddStock] just surface rust.[/QUOTE]

You hope, anyway...I personally can't tell from the picture, so I assume
the worst. Also, I have to think that the rust being right in front of the
mouth is the worst place that it could be (if the metal is pitted).

Author:  Mike Mahar [ Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:01 pm ]
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I just won the auction that I was bidding on. A number 5 and a number 7. Both for $71 (incuding shipping). If I only get the #7 working, I probably got a fair deal. We'll see when they arrive. I'll probably get Hock blades for them but I'll wait until I true them up first. There's no point in buying high quality blades if the planes can't be fixed up.

Author:  Dave Anderson [ Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:20 pm ]
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Glad you won it Mike. That does sound like a good deal If as you say they're fixable

Author:  Michael Shaw [ Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:22 pm ]
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I bought a pre 1950 model no 120 block plane for a steal of 12 dollars total. So I thought. Though usable it had more then surface rust it had son nice pitting on the sole. You can't always tell that in these photos.

Author:  Michael Shaw [ Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:28 pm ]
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I think i'll put a bid on the no 7 jointer plane. No one has bid so far. If I can get it at a low bid what do I have to lose. I really can use one.

Author:  charliewood [ Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:00 am ]
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I will be interested when those planes come up for auction!
I cruise the junk stores and garage sales but I never score the nice tools! dangit!
Cheers
Charliewood

Author:  mikev [ Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:55 pm ]
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if you pay either of those prices you are paying too much, those sizes are common. I payed $30 for a very nice #4 and $25 for a very nice #6. Or was the other way around..    Anyway, good user planes by stanley are common, just set your top $ and you will find one in good shape soon. There is a model of stanley that is highly desirable and you will pay quite a bit more. To bad my brain can't come up with the name. The frog is different, sturdier. Its a ........., not the record.a a man this is gonna drive me nuts. It is molded right on the front of the frog. I believe its what the LN planes are modeled after. As soon as I submit this I will remember.
Mike

Author:  Chas Freeborn [ Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:01 pm ]
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I think what mike's trying to remember is a Stanley Bedrock. Truly the
Cadillac of planes.
Here's my working stable:

They are #'s 3,5,6 & 8. The 3 is a Baily, as the Bedrocks are extremely rare
and expensive in that size.
I use the 6 or the 8 for shooting tops & backs (whichever one is sharper at
the time)
-C

Author:  Arnt Rian [ Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:25 pm ]
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[QUOTE=Chas Freeborn]
They are #'s 3,5,6 & 8. The 3 is a Baily, as the Bedrocks are extremely rare
and expensive in that size.
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Chas, I believe the Bedrock line numbering system is #s 603, 605, 606 and so on where the equivalent Baileys would be #s 3, 5, 6.

I don't think the 603 is that rare, but the 602 and especially the 602C (the 601 size was never made by Stanley) is. Here's from "Blood and Gore" by Patrick Leach: Be careful for counterfeit corrugations on this one. It's one of Stanley's scarcer planes, especially in the round top configuration, which opens it up for the crafty tool artisans to apply their handiwork

Anyways, I agree with you that they are very nice planes. You have a nice collection!Arnt38882.2271412037

Author:  Arnt Rian [ Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:12 am ]
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Todd, nice shots, you are plane crazy!

Thanks for the clarification regarding the Bedrock numbering system. In case some people are not familiar with the "types" you are referring to, this is is system that is being used today to specify what period a Stanley plane was produced. It is not something Stanley knew about when these planes were made, so there are numerous instances of overlapping types (tall knobs that belong on planes from earlier periods, lever caps from previous production runs on later planes and so on). To find what type your Stanley plane is, you can refer to this chart.   

Stanley Plane Dating Flowchart

Author:  Arnt Rian [ Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:32 am ]
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Sorry, that was the Bailey type chart, the types have different dates than the Bedrocks.    

Here's Bob Kaune's Stanley Bedrock Plane Type Study

Author:  Chas Freeborn [ Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:37 am ]
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Mine are the 605,606, etc square shouldered variety. Just lazy typing in
previous post...
Another advantage of the Bedrocks is the increased contact area of the frog
to the sole over the Baily design. My understanding is the greater the contact
area the less chatter, etc.
One of these days I'll trot out the whole herd in front of my camera for a
family photo (including the #51 plane and chute board).
-C

Author:  Bruce Dickey [ Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:31 am ]
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Looks like you won that No.6 Stanley Jointer Plane for ten bucks and shipping. The shipping was more than the plane possibly? Well, it's been seven days, you should have it by now. How about a report?   

PS Jeff, those knob and totes appear to be Brazilian Rosewood. I love those babies. Bruce Dickey38890.5301041667

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