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Author:  James Orr [ Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:07 pm ]
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Brad Goodman sent me a great piece of ziricote for my amp project's
faceplate. I can't wait to get this all in the cabinet and ready to go, but I
have one more parts order to go before I get there. The only thing
missing is the inlay of my lion between the on/off switch and last knob;
and I think I might try silver or copper wire on it afterall (if they may a
brass, bronze, or copper inlay wire).    

If you look at a Matchless amp, they have a baffle under the dials. That
baffle will cover 3/8"s on the sides and 3/4" on the bottom. That will put
the dials in the vertical in the center. The baffle will be covered in the
paisely seen in the first pic. The rest of the cab will be a smooth black
leatherette seen in the background of the first pic.





James Orr38889.8813888889
Author:  Don Williams [ Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:10 pm ]
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Hey James, the top picture makes me want to advise you to go back through your wiring and check for "shorts".

Author:  Jim Kirby [ Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:18 pm ]
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[QUOTE=Don Williams] Hey James, the top picture makes me want to advise you to go back through your wiring and check for "shorts".

[/QUOTE]

Maybe he's auditioning for the Chili peppers
Author:  James Orr [ Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:19 pm ]
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Sound effects: VWAH WAH WAHHHHH

It's going to be cool! lolJames Orr38889.8917013889
Author:  John How [ Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:39 pm ]
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[QUOTE=Don Williams] Hey James, the top picture makes me want to advise you to go back through your wiring and check for "shorts".

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Yeah, no need to check, there they are!!!!

that's the coolest face plate I've ever seen John How38889.9028356482
Author:  James Orr [ Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:26 pm ]
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Thanks Hesh! I'm trying to figure out the finish. I don't think a glossy
finish would look right, but I'm afraid a semi-gloss would be a big
reflection of white. I'll likely finish with danish oil and wax. Do you have
any ideas?
Author:  James Orr [ Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:27 pm ]
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And thanks John!
Author:  Pwoolson [ Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:06 pm ]
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James, ever use Micro Mesh? If you go up to 12000 it will have a deep rich luster without any finish.
Author:  CarltonM [ Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:50 pm ]
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James, my friend, I have to say that your choice of speaker cloth doesn't do anything for that ziricote except insult it.    Since I've now put my foot across the threshold without being invited, I'd like to suggest that you use something that will set off the wood...maybe a black or chocolate brown cloth with gold inclusions like Vox's cloth. Or maybe something lighter to match the knobs. In any case, no heavy or busy patterns! I'd like to conclude by apologizing for my outburst and saying that I'm shutting up now.
Author:  Serge Poirier [ Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:02 pm ]
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James, i can't wait to see the finished product of your project, really interesting! Serge Poirier38890.0023263889
Author:  James Orr [ Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:14 pm ]
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Carlton, all I've offered here is my creativity, and you come through to
slash my dreams.

JUST KIDDING!   The paisely would be horrendous, wouldn't it? haha. No
no, the paisely won't be the speaker cloth, it will cover a decorative baffle
that goes around the faceplate. The cabinet will be black, and the
faceplate will be this brown, so I wanted to help make it less dark and add
a little hope and optimism to it. Something friendly and cool. The
speaker cloth I'll be ordering is the same as the marshall bluesbreaker
cloth.



Author:  James Orr [ Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:18 pm ]
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Thanks Paul. I was actually going to do something similar tomorrow. I've
never used micromesh, but I was thinking about sanding it up pretty
high. I would go to 600 if were to oil/wax it, so why not keep going? It's
a small enough piece that it wouldn't be too toilsome.
Author:  James Orr [ Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:31 pm ]
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Thanks, serge!
Author:  CarltonM [ Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:23 am ]
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[QUOTE=James Orr]the paisely won't be the speaker cloth, it will cover a decorative baffle
that goes around the faceplate.[/QUOTE]
Whew!!! Sorry for misreading your intent.    Now, about that "decorative baffle"...
Author:  csullivan [ Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:05 am ]
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James,
that's going to look great! For whatever it's worth, I think you'll need
some kind of surface finish on that ziricote. In about a month of using it,
you'll have dark circles around the knobs from the oil in your hands, if
you don't finish it with a solid finish. Even an oil finish won't prevent it
from darkening. Why not use a satin or completely flat lacquer or
waterborne finish? You won't even be aware of it being there.

As far as the wire inlay is concerned, I'd use square gold wire you can buy
at a number of jewelry makers web sites. Copper or brass will tarnish
even under the finish and just won't keep the sparkle of gold. It's not
expensive either, something like $10 for 50 ft (20 gauge).
Craig S.
Author:  Kevin Gallagher [ Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:20 am ]
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James,
   Are you planning on any screening for the functions of the knobs or just leaving it blank under or over them.

   I built a pair of amps in the past and when it came time for me to label the faceplates, I used rub-on letter in white from an A.C. Moore craft supply store. They measured about 1/8" high and looked alot like they were screened on like at Fender or Marshall. I rubbed them on in place and then sprayed a sealer over them to lock them down and followed that with a few coats of satin lacquer that looked nice over it when it set up.

   The amp looks great, by the way!

Regards,
Kevin Gallagher/Omega Guitars
Author:  CarltonM [ Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:02 pm ]
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[QUOTE=Kevin Gallagher] James,
   Are you planning on any screening for the functions of the knobs or just leaving it blank under or over them.[/QUOTE]
Masking tape and a Sharpie?
Author:  James Orr [ Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:32 pm ]
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Thanks a bunch, Kevin. I don't think I'm going to label the controls. It
would be better to, but I can't think of an aesthetically pleasing way. I
may simply write with a white pencil to keep the grassroots look of it
going. I know what the controls are (volume, treble, bass, master), but I
know other people will probably want to play with the amp.    
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