Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Thu May 01, 2025 5:28 pm


All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 25 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:28 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:38 am
Posts: 1059
Location: United States
I got an email from me dear ol' mum last night, tipping me off to an estate sale this weekend where they'll have a bunch of tools. "Like you need any more tools!" she commented. I thought I'd share my reply:

Well, unfortunately, a luthier can never have enough tools. There's even a name for this compulsive malady that affects most of us: Tool Acquisition Syndrome (TAS for short). It's almost as dangerous as the dreaded Wood Acquisition Syndrome (WAS), which has driven many a luthier to ruin. There is no known cure for either condition. Another malady, which is equally hazardous to guitarists, is Guitar Acquistion Syndrome (not surprisingly, GAS for short), but fortunately there is at least one known cure for this disease: becoming a luthier.

Best,

Michael


_________________
Live to Play, Play to Live


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:36 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:38 am
Posts: 639
Location: United States
Need new forum category-group therapy for each and all. I'll need three sponsors. Now that I think, after typing,(unfortunately a regular thing for me) this whole forum deal IS group therapy. Thanks to all.MT


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:11 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:03 am
Posts: 6680
Location: Abbotsford, BC Canada
Let us know what you come away with Michael. Resistance is futile of course.

_________________
My Facebook Guitar Page

"There's really no wrong way, as long as the results are what's desired." Charles Fox

"We have to constantly remind ourselves what we're doing....No Luthier is putting a man on the moon!" Harry Fleishman

"Generosity is always different in the eye of the person who didn't receive anything, but who wanted some." Waddy Thomson


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:30 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:46 am
Posts: 2227
Location: Canada
See, curing one out of three is pretty good if you ask me!   

_________________
I'd like to be able to prove, just for once, that money wouldn't make me happy...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:50 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:44 am
Posts: 987
Location: United States
First name: Joe
Last Name: Breault
City: Merrimack
State: NH
Status: Amateur
The beauty of forums like this is that a guy like me can live vicariously through the rest of you. I get to read everyday, always green with envy about the cool tools and great wood and wonderful guitars the rest of you are buying/building. Fortunately I have a wonderful girl who understands my obsession and even supports it. Someday I'll catch up to the rest of you.

_________________
Joe Breault
Merrimack, NH
Perpetual novice


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:56 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2004 1:33 pm
Posts: 270
Location: United States
First name: Dennis
Last Name: Ecklund
City: Athens
State: AL
Zip/Postal Code: 35611
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
When they advertise tools, sometimes there's good wood tucked away in the back corner of the garage or shed.

I recently purchased some lovely large mahogany and walnut boards. I had to dig for them, though. They were buried under a stack of plywood and scrap drywall in the back corner of an outside shed.

_________________
D..


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:38 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Sun Dec 25, 2005 6:32 am
Posts: 7774
Location: Canada
WAS, TAS and GAS are the most subtles attacks on human beings, makin' them live a wide array of emotions, dreamin' wide awake day and night but seeing a person as sick as a luthier, his face full of sawdust and grinning from ear to ear because of that same disease or malady, makes you wonder if one would want to go back to his pre-lutherie days!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:27 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:38 am
Posts: 1059
Location: United States
[QUOTE=Alain Desforges] See, curing one out of three is pretty good if you ask me!    [/QUOTE]

Ah, but therein lies the tragedy, don't you see. Once one becomes cured of GAS, one falls victim to TAS and WAS, for which, sadly, there is no cure.

Best,

Michael

_________________
Live to Play, Play to Live


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:29 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:38 am
Posts: 1059
Location: United States
[QUOTE=Dennis E.] When they advertise tools, sometimes there's good wood tucked away in the back corner of the garage or shed.[/QUOTE]

Oh Nooooooo!

Now you've gone and done it, Dennis. TAS and WAS at the same time. Resistance is futile!

Best,

Michael

_________________
Live to Play, Play to Live


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:32 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:58 pm
Posts: 2946
Location: United States
     One can cure a luthier with T/W/GAS easily! I always brine with 1 cup sugar and 1/2 cup salt per gallon of water, and stick in a smoke house for at least a day. Smokey, tender, flavorful.

Perfect cure everytime! Billy T38911.6479398148

_________________
Billy Dean Thomas
Covina, CA

"Multi famam, conscientiam, pauci verentur."
(Many fear their reputation, few their conscience)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:11 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:10 am
Posts: 606
Location: United States
[QUOTE=Hesh1956]
Actually TAS has not hit me (yet) and I have the advantage of having no where left to put tools......

[/QUOTE]

If you have TAS and space becomes a problem then that's when you switch finding small expensive hand tools: Auriou rasps, Lie Nielsen Planes, Japanese chisels, Sharpening Jigs, Shapton 12000 grit Waterstones, and then there's vises and clamps, measuring tools like Starrett rulers and squares..., the TAS affliction knows no end, space is never a problem, besides, you can always upgrade.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:14 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:44 am
Posts: 987
Location: United States
First name: Joe
Last Name: Breault
City: Merrimack
State: NH
Status: Amateur
[QUOTE=Billy T]      One can cure a luthier with T/W/GAS easily! I always brine with 1 cup sugar and 1/2 cup salt per gallon of water, and stick in a smoke house for at least a day. Smokey, tender, flavorful.

Perfect cure everytime! [/QUOTE]

Billy, do you use hickory or mesquite for that?

_________________
Joe Breault
Merrimack, NH
Perpetual novice


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:02 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:46 am
Posts: 2227
Location: Canada
[QUOTE=Michael McBroom] [QUOTE=Alain Desforges] See, curing one out of three is pretty good if you ask me!    [/QUOTE]

Ah, but therein lies the tragedy, don't you see. Once one becomes cured of GAS, one falls victim to TAS and WAS, for which, sadly, there is no cure.

Best,

Michael [/QUOTE]

Indeed, I was just thinking about a rarer mutation of GAS, that of CAGAS (Collectible Antique Guitar Acquisition Syndrom)... But that's too terrible to talk about in polite society. In fact, I might already have said too much...

_________________
I'd like to be able to prove, just for once, that money wouldn't make me happy...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:59 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:31 am
Posts: 3134
Location: United States
[QUOTE=Hesh1956]Actually TAS has not hit me (yet) and I have the advantage of having no where left to put tools...... [/QUOTE]
Hesh, I think you're in denial! Guys, it's time for an intervention...oh, never mind. I'm talkin' to the wrong group for that. Anyway, Hesh, you don't have too many tools; your house is too small!

Another thought: Aren't all guitarmakers GAS pushers?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:04 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Sun Dec 25, 2005 6:32 am
Posts: 7774
Location: Canada
Even the Doctors have no cure and are subject to the same depravation that leads to dependance , Andy? Serge Poirier38912.0032986111


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:10 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:38 am
Posts: 1059
Location: United States
[QUOTE=Alain Desforges]
Indeed, I was just thinking about a rarer mutation of GAS, that of CAGAS (Collectible Antique Guitar Acquisition Syndrom)... But that's too terrible to talk about in polite society. In fact, I might already have said too much...[/QUOTE]

Oh, this is indeed terrible! Terrible and tragic, I tell you! And you're right. For this maladay, there is indeed no cure. I even know a fellow afflicted with this thankfully somewhat rare condition of CAGAS. His house is slowly filling up with 19th century guitars, and his wife is contemplating murder . . .

"But Honey, these guitars are investments!" I can hear him saying. Undoubtedly true, but how often have we ourselves used the same tired old line, "But Honey, all this tonewood is like money in the bank!" Yeah, like we'd ever spend it. Except to buy more tonewood.

Best,

Michael

_________________
Live to Play, Play to Live


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:22 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:25 pm
Posts: 7207
Location: United States
I have non of those afflictions.

Unless being a BRW Junkie is considered related.

_________________
"I want to know what kind of pickups Vince Gill uses in his Tele, because if I had those, as good of a player as I am, I'm sure I could make it sound like that.
Only badly."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:35 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:25 pm
Posts: 7207
Location: United States
Hesh, I promise to be good.

So don't pollute Bob's pic with my face. Where I come from, that just ain't right.
That would dishonor Bob!



Don Williams38912.5678703704

_________________
"I want to know what kind of pickups Vince Gill uses in his Tele, because if I had those, as good of a player as I am, I'm sure I could make it sound like that.
Only badly."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:36 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:31 am
Posts: 3134
Location: United States
[QUOTE=Hesh1956] ...my lunch hour that I spent at Woodcraft..... [/QUOTE]
Heh. Hey, how did you get out of there in just an hour?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:44 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:58 pm
Posts: 2946
Location: United States
[quote=Joe]Billy, do you use hickory or mesquite for that? [/quote]

I use two woods! Spruce over rosewood - make'em suffer!

[quote](You did ship my order already so you can't spit (or worse) in the box right?) [/quote]

    Huhm! Maybe that's the intersting figure one see's in all this fine wood! Pa-too-ee!! And your's seems to be the most highly figured of all Hesh! Photoshop gives you that extra edge in luthery! Huhm!

_________________
Billy Dean Thomas
Covina, CA

"Multi famam, conscientiam, pauci verentur."
(Many fear their reputation, few their conscience)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:53 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:11 pm
Posts: 296
Location: United States
First name: Louis
Last Name: Freilicher
City: Belchertown
State: MA
Zip/Postal Code: 01007
Country: USA
Focus: Repair
Status: Professional
I'll admit that I have it much worse than any of you, for I suffer from
TAS, WAS, GAS and the MOST dreadful of all BAS. (Banjo acquisition
syndrome) The rule and my hose is, and I quote, "If you come home
with another banjo, I'll kill you!"

I’ve tried the investment scam, but to no avail. I've even tried to get
one for the wife to teach her top play. I got the confused look for
about five seconds followed by the phrase "that’s bull....” Yes, it was
honey!!

Thanks for the vent..... Time to check EBay for all those 1920's
Gibson’s.... Vegass.. Orpheum’s..... AHHHHHH


Louis

_________________
- Louis Freilicher

Oh No! Not another learning experience!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:03 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:07 am
Posts: 815
Location: Olympia
First name: Mark
Last Name: Tripp
City: Olympia
State: Washington
Zip/Postal Code: 98506
Country: United States
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro


Hey Louis, I've got a friend that has a pre-war Mastertone he wants to sell...

-Mark

_________________
Pullman, WA

The more I know, the more I know I don't know.

trippguitars.com
OR
Find me on Facebook


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:12 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:11 pm
Posts: 296
Location: United States
First name: Louis
Last Name: Freilicher
City: Belchertown
State: MA
Zip/Postal Code: 01007
Country: USA
Focus: Repair
Status: Professional
Mark,

Your killing me....!!

Louis


_________________
- Louis Freilicher

Oh No! Not another learning experience!


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 25 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 18 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com