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Author: | Kelby [ Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:45 am ] |
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Thanks to Bob, Michael and Tony for the helpful info and inspiration they provided recent threads about segmented rosettes. I threw one together yesterday using Tony's technique. It wasn't quite as fancy as the ones Bob and Michael made, but it went together surprisingly fast and well. It's still in its rough state --- sanded to 80 grit, with a quick splash of shellac to show the color. It's cocobolo tiles with black and white fiber for the lines. |
Author: | peterm [ Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:03 am ] |
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Nice look! Love it! ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Serge Poirier [ Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:07 am ] |
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Great job Kelby, it's got class! ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Dave Rector [ Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:39 am ] |
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That's really nice Kelby! Great job! |
Author: | SteveCourtright [ Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:51 am ] |
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Beautiful! The black lines between segments, the careful lining up of the grain. Details! |
Author: | Anthony Z [ Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:27 pm ] |
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Kelby - well done! I'll take two please ![]() |
Author: | MSpencer [ Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:37 pm ] |
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Looking good! Mike White Oak, Texas |
Author: | Bobc [ Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:33 pm ] |
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Nice job Kelby. Looks great. |
Author: | BobK [ Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:46 pm ] |
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Nice job Kelby, that looks great. I really like the contrast between the coco and spruce. Pretty quick turnaround time too. How did you end up making the segments - are they multiple veneers of the same piece? Bob k |
Author: | TonyKarol [ Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:50 pm ] |
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well done .. gotta like the coco. I bought a chunk a ways back, thats really oly god for multi piece headplates, or segments like this, has a nice wave to the black lines ... mmmmmm. |
Author: | Mark Swanson [ Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:52 am ] |
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OK- I need a bit of help here. Can someone point me to the first discussion that was mentioned, where Tony and Michael talked about making these kinds of rosettes? I searched and looked and can't find it, and I missed it the first time it came around. Thanks in advance... |
Author: | TonyKarol [ Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:41 am ] |
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Sorry Mark, no can do - you missed the boat !!! ![]() |
Author: | CarltonM [ Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:07 am ] |
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Really fine job, Kelby! The thoughtful grain orientation is striking. |
Author: | Mark Swanson [ Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:15 am ] |
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Gee, looks like I'm on my own! I can figure it out for myself I guess...that's the way I have always learned anyway! |
Author: | TonyKarol [ Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:34 am ] |
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Mark, it must be in the archives somewhere, it wasnt posted that long ago - basically its a table saw sled that cuts the pieces on a given angle, depending on how many segments you are doing, and it has a stop for the length. I need to look again on the PC to see if I still have the pix. The easiest way to figure out the length is simply draw out a rosette and then measure how long is required per piece. Found them .... ![]() ![]() Cut the pieces, glue them up on a piece of veneer or even bristolboard with CA, add in any divider lines you want, then cut out with a circle cutter. Inlay that first, then add the outer/inner lines. Oh yeah, if the pieces dont quite end up perfect, thats OK, it goes under the fretbaord - remember, 10 piece rosette, thats 20 cuts, so you need to be accurate to within 1/10 degree per cut to get it close. |
Author: | Mark Swanson [ Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:43 pm ] |
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Thanks Tony, very cool and helpful of you to post that. I know what to do now! I have some spalted maple that I'll use. |
Author: | Jim Watts [ Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:57 pm ] |
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These are really nice guys, I'll have to give it try sometime. |
Author: | Serge Poirier [ Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:27 pm ] |
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Thanks Tony, i bought myself some cocobolo pen blanks at Lee Valley this week end, will know how to operate on the next rosette! ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Kelby [ Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:38 pm ] |
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Thanks, everyone! Bob K, here's how I made the segments. First, I took a cutoff from the back of a cocobolo guitar I made a while back. I cut two strips 1" wide by about ten or twelve inches long, paying careful attenting to getting a nice grain pattern that was fairly parallel to the length of the cut. From that I cut the segments using a jig like Tony's. This is a perfect use for those cutoff pieces from highly exotic back sets. I made a couple more rosettes last night, and I inlaid one of them today --- spalted maple. I like that one even better. I'll post pics in a new thread. |
Author: | TonyKarol [ Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:19 pm ] |
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Good stuff Kelby - dont be afraid to use wavy or salnted grain - by flipping for each cut you can make the grain zigzag around, crazy curl can be made to bookmatch all the way around, whatever .. the possibilites are endless, and it s agreat use for smaller pieces of zoot. You do the same as I - use pieces about 1 inch wide, however long, gives the abillity to makehte ring anywhere from 1/4 to almost 3/4 wide. |
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