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Author:  SteveCourtright [ Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:41 am ]
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I am taking a survey. The binding on this 1967 Gibson LGO is deteriorating. What would you do? I need to give some advice to the owner. Thanks for your wise thoughts and any how-to tips offered!!!






Author:  Serge Poirier [ Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:47 am ]
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Steve, no expert here but the first thing that came to mind as i looked at your pics was to clean the bindings with naphta, i'll wait for the experts to give you a better answer though.

Are the bindings still glued firmly to the guitar?

Author:  SteveCourtright [ Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:52 am ]
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Serge, the binding is tight to the channel but it looks like it is crystallizing in places and flaking off or coming off in little salt-sized pieces. Wierd, like the plasticizer is leaving and the plastic is reverting back to granules...

Author:  pharmboycu [ Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:14 pm ]
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As a player first, luthier wanna-be second, I would suggest to keep it as original as possible. The "mojo" that comes with the old parts of a guitar is worth the conservation.

Author:  Evan Gluck [ Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:48 pm ]
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If you brush on "laquer melt" Butyl Cellusole (spelling) it will remelt the plastic and the cracks will disappear. I did it on a Hummingbird recently and it worked great. I then used super glue to fill in the voids. Use massive ventilation and don't spill it on the laquer!
Hope this helps,
Evan

Author:  Serge Poirier [ Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:06 pm ]
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What Evan said Steve, it sounds great to my ears and besides, he's an expert!

Author:  SteveCourtright [ Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:25 pm ]
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Evan, I like that idea very much. Perfect solution!!!

Author:  MSpencer [ Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:27 pm ]
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Thanks Evan, I will file this away for future reference.

Mike
White Oak, Texas

Author:  Evan Gluck [ Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:59 pm ]
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Remember this works on the type of binding in the photos, where it begins to crystallize, I have not tried it on a white binding and would be hesitant to try it on another form of plastic. Also if you can't seem to penetrate the whitish flaky part with the butyl cellusolve than poke a tiny hole in it with a pin or xacto blade and it will flow through. It looks pretty cool as it reattaches the flaky bits. PROPER VENTILATION!!!! I had all my windows open but still felt myself getting stupider as I worked with it. Now I am an idiot
Evan

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:35 am ]
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Wow that is some awesome tortoise shell. Yep I would doe every thing to save it.

Author:  crazymanmichael [ Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:37 am ]
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seconding evans caution regarding the use of the butylcellusolve. it is a nasty solvent. wear your appropriate respirator. when i use it i like to be in the spray booth with the exhaust fan running. even a very small amout can get at you.

Author:  Steve Kinnaird [ Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:01 am ]
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[QUOTE=Evan Gluck] I had all my windows open but still felt myself getting stupider as I worked with it. Now I am an idiot
Evan[/QUOTE]

Evan, that's hilarious. By the way, was this before I met you at the convention?   

Just wondering...

Steve

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