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Hi wondering if anyone has some advice as to which jig they would recommend using for cutting binding ledges.It would need to fit either a dremel or a makita 707F trimmer, Ive only built one guitar and used the makita which worked but was challenge to keep the cut precise.
thanks
kurt.

Kurt, I've used just about every method (except a chisel). I like the Fleishman/Williams style jig as it's easier for me to move the router than the guitar. This jig holds the router vertical at all times so your ledges will always be perpendicular to the sides.

Are there any plans available for this jig?

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JJ
Napa, CA
http://www.DonohueGuitars.com

There have been several different types of binding jigs discussed here recently.

I made a stationary jig which you run the body around and Roy Ott made one as well

Here is the link to Roy's post which has a link to my post.

There are many good ways of doing this procedure, if you have the trimmer already, I would say that my type of jig is the least expensive, not necessarily the most fool proof but it does work very well as long as you pay attention.

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JJ,
Here

Thanks Keith...this seller has some really nice stuff!

BTW...he mentions that he improved The Don's jig. I was shocked and in awe at such a claim! Does anyone know the nature of those modifications and what they improved?

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JJ
Napa, CA
http://www.DonohueGuitars.com

It looks exactly like mine, built from Don's photos in our jigs section. I don't see any changes at all.

I just recommend using the best lazy susan bearing and best drawer glide you can find. It is smooth as silk and works extremely well.

Ron

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Ron Wisdom

Somewhere in the middle of Arkansas......

I have a set of their plans. I can't see any difference between their plans and the pictures of Don's. If there are any modifications they are very subtle.   With that said, it was still worth it for me to get the plans. I would rather work from a plan set than to wing it. It would be my luck to cobble something together and find out as I start cutting my first ledge that I missed something very important and just ruined my first guitar.Aoibeann39030.470462963

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Aoibeann

"The Taste of Talisker", and "McCloud's Wedding" are two of my favourite jigs.

Colin

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[QUOTE=Colin S] "The Taste of Talisker", and "McCloud's Wedding" are two of my favourite jigs.

Colin[/QUOTE]   

Do you have a mp3 or wav file of you playing them? Would love to hear them.

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Aoibeann

JJ,

I built two of these jigs from his plan and they work very well. I don't think there is any improvement over what Don has done.

I would like to thank Don W. and Harry F.
for sharing their genius.

kurt,
i bought the binding jig from one of our sponsors - guitar jigs - and think it's the most amazing tool.
it'll work with your makita.
check it out online. the jig is genius - and it packs away in a small box when not in use. handy for a guy like me with a tiny shop.
phil

The plans, as drawn and sold by Rick Micheletti on eBay, have a minor yet significant difference. The donut that rides the edge of the guitar is very different. He found a part from McMaster-Carr that seems to work well for that instead of having to make one. The part is a UHMW flange bearing, part no. 57785K38.

Oh...the real genius of this jig was Harry's part. Mine was really just a pretty simple modification to his design.

The Guitar Jigs design is also excellent. Most folks will prefer one of those designs over the other, so they are both used happily by those that choose the one they feel more comfortable with.

Don

Don Williams39036.6634722222

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Don,
are you sure that part # is correct? I looked it up and it looked like a normal nylon/whatever flange. Nothing different than I thought you were already using.

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"If it doesn't play in tune...it's just pretty wood"

thanks for the help everyone. I am looking at all of your suggestions :)

Dave,

I bought a bag of scrap pieces of UHMW from Woodcraft and carved one of the pieces into a disc with a rim. It was a pain in the neck. If I owned a lathe, it would have been a simple thing to turn one, but I had to carve mine with a chisel. So they are very different except the material.

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Only badly."

Here is the tread where I described my binding jig which is simailar to Rod True's.

Arnt Rian's binding jig

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Don,
I mounted a piece of UHMW with a 3/4" center hole on the bottom of my trimmer. Then used my circle cutter with a second trimmer to cut the ledge and resize the center hole. My circle cutter has a 1/4" guide pin so I just put a longer pin in and stuck in the chuck of the first trimmer. Pretty easy and everything stays perfectly centered.