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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:21 pm 
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Brazilian Rosewood
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I am. I'm kinda putting a feeler out there just to get some interest.

The good side of the situation:

Education-What better way to learn than to do it day in and day out...
Shop-The apprentice could use my shop after hours for personal projects
that I would supply some materials for

The Bad side of the situation:

Pay- or lack thereof. This is the killer for probably 99% of the guys out
there. I would not be able to pay other than the use of the shop, some
minor expenses (very minor) and some materials for personal projects
(which the apprentice could sell if they so choose...heck I'd help em sell
em and give some pointers on building them) Over time this could work
into a paying position but it would not be anytime really soon.


I know that is pretty unreasonable situation for most people as they
would have to work to bring in some money, but some guys with working
wives (or wives like John Kerry...just hopefully better looking and not as
strange) or other lucky situations it may work for.

Anyway if your interested please contact me as I'll be taking applications
and looking over things.

Thanks!

John Mayes

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John,

Someone is going to be really lucky when they get the chance to learn from you. I have learned a lot from your "online" courses (dvds) so I can imagine the learning curve would be alot faster working with you in person.

If only I was 20 again. I would pack up the ol' VW and head south!

Jeff


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There must be one very lucky guy out there, such a chance to learn from a master luthier.

Too bad I live so far away, I would take the chance......


Good Luck!

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I'm, for sure, Not a Master Luthier. Not even close.

Hopefully I'll find someone who is a good fit though. Thanks guys...

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Hmm.. a 20 sumthin year old with nothing too pressing to do who wants to learn from an old pro.. I think I know someone like that.. Oh ya.. I think they call him Jay

If only I didn't need money.. I'm Canadian so it's not like I could even get a night job down South. Ah well, tonewood grunt I shall remain

Guess I'm gonna have to settle on the next best thing and order the DVDs

Good luck to whomever this is a possibilty

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[QUOTE=Jason] Hmm.. a 20 sumthin year old with nothing too pressing
to do who wants to learn from an old pro.. I think I know someone like
that.. Oh ya.. I think they call him Jay

If only I didn't need money.. I'm Canadian so it's not like I could even get
a night job down South. Ah well, tonewood grunt I shall remain

Guess I'm gonna have to settle on the next best thing and order the DVDs


Good luck to whomever this is a possibilty [/QUOTE]

Hey buddy who ya callin old? :) I'm only 26! or 27?...hmm... well july
1978 anwyay....

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Perhaps you could take a leaf out of Stan the Man's, and also Colin's books, and find some guitar nut kid on a diability pension (or whatever you call it over there), who has had a truly [bad word]ful life.

If he's on a pension, he'll already have both an income and some spare time, and would probably be in need of, well, this.


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[QUOTE=PaulB] truly [bad word]ful life.[/QUOTE]

[bad word]! I've just been censored!


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Paul,
Not sure what you said, but there (IS) a bad word filter that will remove bad words. AND there is a kind and gentle reminder in the registration as well as the very SHORT list of rules that lets us all know "there's no cussin round here"

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In the 18th and 19 century an apprentice worked for his master with on monetary compensation instead he was provided with room and board and his master's family became his surrogate family. Have you given any thought to maybe being able to provide quarters and meals along with shop privileges. I have a friend that in the 70's built boats in Natchitoches Louisiana and he did such a thing with a local high school student during the summers. He paid no wages but gave him a place to live and meals and an education into the business world. This student stayed with him for six year, two year of high school and four years of college. One warning though. When this student graduated from college My friend could not get him out of his life. It seems this student became his son-in-law. This relasionship is still very much in tack after some Thirty years.MichaelP38386.4469328704


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Just kidding! , Heard that line way too often...
John,
Have you thought maybe instead of asking someone to apprentice...How about a partner? Someone who could share the overhead costs, the start-up costs (like machines etc.) could possibly even add to the efficiency of the operation because of duplication of machines ( they could then be utilized for special tasks) it could be a great learning experience as well as profitable for both. Where are you located?

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78.. your only 4 years older than me.. BTW your 26 at the moment You'd be suprised how much we have in common.. I read your Bio.. It could be my bio except I'm canadian and instead of baseball I've got football.
I'm impressed.

Someone your age making it building is inspiring.

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