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I just saw this on another woodworking forum, Sears has their 18x36 drum sander on clearance for $400. Has anyone seen or used one of these? I know Craftsman is not the best name in tools, but every once in a while they get it right (the Craftsman Rikon bandsaws, their version of the Ryobi BT3100 table saw).

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I already have a Performax 10-20 that I'm happy with, but I thought others might be interested in this, and I was also just curious about it since I didn't know they made one. And that's a pretty good price. I think it's an online-only deal, and you'll have to pay shipping.

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Great buy. Sure looks like a PerfomaxBobc39051.3587615741

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My guess is that it's a Ryobi. They make a lot of Sears' tools for them.

I just noticed this sander also. It's a small oscillating edge sander. Nice... and cheap.Don Williams39051.3675115741

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Jon, looks like a very good deal with a 3 HP motor.


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Hmmmm...argh, I have no money.

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According to the forum I got this from (bt3central), you have to be careful with Sears' HP ratings, you basically have to cut it in half to compare to others' products.

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I noticed the description said the sleeve was 18". I suspect it has a 16" drum, and it sure does look like a Performax 16-32. Looks like a great price.


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I'm with Bill. i'm broke!


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Get it!! Its a great unit... specially for the price.


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Shipping is $129 to 99205, can't pick up in the store. But dang, still could be a good deal.

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I wonder if it goes down to the minimum thicknesses enough to do veneers and soundboards and things. I seem to remember seeing some machines that had fairly high minimum thicknesses that would make a backing board necessary.

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I've used one... you can get it down to about .070 or so but you can always run the wood on a board an get any thickness needed!

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[QUOTE=ToddStock] It's a Palmgren 81318 - 4" x 18" belt-driven 4000 RPM drum, table moves, 2-12 fpm feed speed and a 1-1/2 hp motor.

All welded-steel construction - no castings to speak of. Integrated dust collection - whatever that means.

I have not seen anyone with a review; however, Amazon sells them for around $900.

Worst case is that you buy the sander, it works like many Craftsman tools (the articulated bandsaw was the best...what a flippin' mess that was), so you return it with no questions asked. Best case is that it's half the price of the 16/32 or the Delta and tons better.
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Todd--It looks like the Palmgren and the Sears are two different drum sanders. Or did I miss something?
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Jon,

I have the Performax 16-32 and it's a bit different than the one shown in the Sears link. The base of mine extends underneath the motor and there is a foot from the drum up/down casting that has a threaded adjustment so you can level the angle of the drum if it has runout from side to side. That would be my concern with the one shown.

Other than that it looks a lot like the Performax. Take a close look at the Performax shown on the Woodcraft site and you can see what I am trying to explain.

I have taken the Performax down to 0.060" without any trouble. Any less than that would probably require a base-board under the stock you are sanding.

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It looks like a slightly larger version of my Ryobi (see below).
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Looks like its sold out already

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[QUOTE=letseatpaste] According to the forum I got this from (bt3central), you have to be careful with Sears' HP ratings, you basically have to cut it in half to compare to others' products.[/QUOTE]

This gets back to something I have mentioned before. Retailers are allowed to claim Hp at peak Hp under no load as the HP rating. Even if the claimed HP is reach only for a micro second at perfect amperage and voltage. The rating is easy to notice because the packaging must state peak HP or max available Hp and they should have a disclaimer on the packaging stating this fact. But for some unknown reason they do not have to make this disclaimer in their advertisements. go figure.


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