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the high E string. It's very slight but it is there on every freted note, but not on the open string. The amplitude does not change as you progress up the neck.

My guess is that I got a little carried away while shaping the saddle and it ended up a few thousanths low. Whadaya think?

Cecil


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is the neck straight, or have some relief, or is it backbowed? when you have a generalized fretted string buzz the neck is often the culprit.

is neck angle correct?

what is your 12th fret string height?

is your saddle radiused to match the fretboard, and string gauge.

it seems that what you describe is more indicative of a neck problem.

any photos??????


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You might check the break over the saddle. If you can picture in your mind: The straight line of an unfretted string clears ok but the bend of a fretted string might be catching something on the front of the saddle. Might also check the ball end to see if it's seated properly. Not sure why that wouldn't buzz when not fretted but the extra tension of fretting might be enough to set it off.
Obviously my thoughts turn to someplace in the saddle/bridge because it is an on or off thing. When it buzzes it always buzzes. Poke around there and make sure you have enough break angle off the saddle.


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Cecil, I agree with these guys, it's a matter of analysis.

Break angle over the saddle, if that's it you may need to slot the bridgepin hole toward the saddle, making the angle more severe.

Plus, you can pluck the string and hold down the string behind the saddle, if it stops, that's the problem.

Also, if it's the nut, it may be due to a "too flat" slot, you may need to angle half or more of the nut slot down the peghead, careful not to lower the front of the solt of course if the action is right.

Again, you can press the string near the nut, and see if the buzz stops, if so that's the problem. And, don't forget our pal Frank Ford, he has a complete neck setup and refret, and buzz diagnosis on www.frets.com What a Resource. Good luck, you'll get it.

I had a similar problem. My son walked in the shop to ohh and ahhh over one I was stringing up. I didn't realize that the business card shim fell out when I flipped it so he could see the rosewood back.

So, I had to do all of this myself, just to look behind me on the floor and find my lost shim. That was all it needed. Lady singer now has her fine HD-28 to play over Chritmas, oh joy!


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Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I think Paul got it first. The saddle seems to be the problem. The buzz stops if I press the string at the very frount of the saddle with my thumb nail. Not enough clearance in frount of the break point? Pressing behind the saddle has no effect.

Neck angle,relief are all as suggested by Mr.C

I'll file a little more clearance at the frount of the break point and see what happens.

Thanks again,
Cecil


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