Don Williams wrote:
It feels like cheating...
lol
lol
If it feels like cheating, it is
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| Author: | Don Williams [ Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Is it Cheating??? |
So I've been thinking about building a Tele and a Strat for myself, and after hunting for wood and plans, and then looking online and seeing the offerings by Warmoth and others, even though I have a CNC, is it cheating to simply buy the pre-cut bodies and necks? (LOL) Anyone have any good 3D models or plans for the above guitars they're willing to share? Looking for an early 50's Tele plan, and a late '50's Strat plan / models. Thanks! |
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| Author: | Chris Pile [ Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is it Cheating??? |
Quote: is it cheating to simply buy the pre-cut bodies and necks? Made a lot of money in the 80's and 90's by "cheating".... The client gets what the client wants.... |
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| Author: | Barry Daniels [ Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is it Cheating??? |
At the fairly low price they sell these for, you can hardly go wrong. Have you seen this site? http://www.guitarfetish.com/XGP-Tele-Style-Bodies_c_548.html |
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| Author: | Mike2E [ Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is it Cheating??? |
I have used parts from Warmoth and they fit perfectly onto fenders. Very well produced. I have also seen a few guitarfetish complete guitars, and they are high quality. |
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| Author: | Mitch Cain [ Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is it Cheating??? |
I was told that using my CNC to cut a Tele body was cheating as late as last night. Haters gonna hate! The same guy later asked me to cut him a neck....You need to do what is right to optimize your time. |
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| Author: | Don Williams [ Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is it Cheating??? |
Mitch, the point is that I have a CNC and I could cut the parts myself, but I'm highly tempted to just buy them. It feels like cheating... which is what non-CNC guys often think about CNC's. lol |
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| Author: | Chris Pile [ Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is it Cheating??? |
Back in the 80's many snobs in the guitar building community didn't even consider CNC made guitar parts to be luthiery. They forgot that luthiers still have to finish the parts, level the frets, make the nuts, string and set up the instrument into a nice playing and good sounding whole per the wishes of a client - all necessary luthiery skills. Hand made or machine made - we build or assemble guitars in order to turn a profit, and machinery just helps us do that with more consistency and accuracy. The efficiency of machinery makes us more money. Time is money, right? So the term cheating is just BS in this instance. It you wanna make it - make it. If you don't - don't. |
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| Author: | Andy Birko [ Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is it Cheating??? |
Don Williams wrote: It feels like cheating... lol If it feels like cheating, it is
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| Author: | Don Williams [ Sun Mar 20, 2016 1:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is it Cheating??? |
Andy Birko wrote: If it feels like cheating, it is  How many of us have wanted to cheat at one time or another.... 
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| Author: | Imbler [ Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:38 pm ] |
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Wow, I looked at the guitarfetish site, and I don't see how we could get the materials for what they are charging for completed pieces, Mike |
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| Author: | rlrhett [ Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is it Cheating??? |
It's a Tele, right? I mean, its not like the originals were hand crafted by Italian 7th generation luthiers in Cremona. You could order a whole guitar online and swap out the electronics. Thats not cheating either. That's called getting a Telecaster. The only reason to build a Tele by hand, as far as I can see, is to get something that is not available pre-made. If you like what is already out there, buy it. It is almost guaranteed to be cheaper (and certainly easier). But, then again, to me hand crafting a copy of a Telecaster is a little like hand crafting a custom Hyundai Elantra.
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| Author: | Jim Watts [ Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is it Cheating??? |
This is a slippery slope. Pretty soon you'll be walking into GC and wondering , is this cheating? 
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| Author: | ChuckH [ Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:47 pm ] |
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Let me ask if using CNC can you still call your product hand carved, hand crafted, hand made? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Andy Birko [ Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:29 pm ] |
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I would say that's a separate thread! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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