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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:18 pm 
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I'm actually preparing to make my own one piece, double acting truss rod within the next couple of weeks. Hot rods are a fine product, but I'm working with very thin profile necks. I will be thoroughly documenting the process and reporting the results. As long as it works as well as I expect the next project they will be used in is a 8 string with two rods... Which should be a fun experience.

Back to the original question: for your first build its very difficult to go wrong with a hot rod. It's one of the safest ways to get started and successfully create a working and adjustable neck. If you want to try something else down the road you always have the option... But there are plenty of pro builders who use hot rods and other pre-fabricated double acting rods. There is no good reason to use graphite reinforcement alone. No matter how perfectly you build a neck, once it is under tension you should have a way to adjust it. Otherwise you are sacrificing playability for no good reason.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:22 pm 
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Filippo Morelli wrote:
This is the one I had looked at recently, which had caused me to ask about welds:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190525479098

Are all these blue ones made by the same folks? There are many sellers so I don't know if folks on this thread are all discussing the same truss rod?

Here's a photo for the above truss rod. That weld is mighty small - looks more like a tack. Worse off - there is no weld at metal to metal contact. That's a weld blob jumping the gap, giving the impression that something is held together well. Anyone here with professional welding experience will have concern with this - kind of like a blob of Titebond that touches two piece of wood that don't join. There is this frustrating concept called, "sheer". Nonetheless, it would not pass my QC.

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Truss rods seem to be a squirrelly subject. I'm now using mostly Martin double and Allied's rods (http://alliedlutherie.com/truss_rods.htm). The latter especially on electrics where my neck thickness at the first fret is very thin. Stew Mac's stuff was too thick for my application. There are other manufacturers. People seem to be concerned about breakage - shall we assume it occurs in the wild? Experience?

Here's a photo of the Allied rod welds:

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Filippo

I have noticed a few of these rods that also have the plastic wrap that covers the weld area so you can't see it or their photos are so small you can't make out any definition. Now this blue rod you show is from a Canadian seller. I have bought some electric parts from this guy and they were okay. Chinese made but okay. Now I have noticed lately that some of his rods have minimum welds and some have big sloppy welds and rust. I never bought rods from him though...Mike

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