Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Mon Dec 02, 2024 6:48 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 5 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: String Stiffness
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:48 pm 
Offline
Walnut
Walnut

Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:31 pm
Posts: 3
First name: Josh
Last Name: Furr
City: Cowpens
State: SC
Zip/Postal Code: 29330
Country: United States
Focus: Repair
Status: Amateur
How is it that the same pack of strings on two different guitars can feel different when it comes to stiffness? On one guitar i have no problem bending and i can add vibrato to the note held, but on the other guitar the strings seem to be a lot stiffer and i cannot hold the note as long and there is no chance at getting any vibrato.

One guitar is a fender stratocaster, avri 62
The other is a warmoth strat body with a fender neck and a 2 stud wilkinson tremolo

Is there any way to fix this problem?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: String Stiffness
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:53 pm 
Offline
Walnut
Walnut

Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:55 pm
Posts: 6
First name: Lance
Last Name: Wilkinson
Zip/Postal Code: 02360
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Are the scales the same? If one is, say, a 25" scale and one is a 26.5" in scale, there's going to be a difference in stiffness, tension, etc.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: String Stiffness
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:02 pm 
Offline
Walnut
Walnut

Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:31 pm
Posts: 3
First name: Josh
Last Name: Furr
City: Cowpens
State: SC
Zip/Postal Code: 29330
Country: United States
Focus: Repair
Status: Amateur
They are the same scale. I have read up on properly setting up a guitar and how all of the different factors come into play, but with the scale being the same kinda stumped me.

Could it have anything to do with the height at the nut? When measuring with feeler gauges I have two different heights on the e strings. The high E measures a lot closer to the first fret than the low E. I'm wondering if maybe i just can't get a good grip on the e and b strings because of this. What do you think?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: String Stiffness
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:03 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:41 am
Posts: 223
Location: Naugatuck, CT
I'd be inclined to think it could be the different trem setups giving you the different feel. does one need to be bent farther than the other to achieve the same pitch? Is one trem set up stiffer? I've found it takes more bend with a trem setup because the trem moves as you bend.

_________________
Rob


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: String Stiffness
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:07 pm 
Offline
Walnut
Walnut

Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:31 pm
Posts: 3
First name: Josh
Last Name: Furr
City: Cowpens
State: SC
Zip/Postal Code: 29330
Country: United States
Focus: Repair
Status: Amateur
Rob Warren wrote:
I'd be inclined to think it could be the different trem setups giving you the different feel. does one need to be bent farther than the other to achieve the same pitch? Is one trem set up stiffer? I've found it takes more bend with a trem setup because the trem moves as you bend.


Now that I've compared the two closer, it seems I'm having to bend a little further to reach the same pitch, but not a whole lot. I stiffened up the tremolo by adding all five springs instead of just the three that were on it already and that really made a difference. Only problem there is now the tremolo is close to being useless, but I'm not too big of a tremolo user anyways. At least now I can play the thing!

Thanks for your help!


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 5 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 50 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com