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| Author: | Kyle Vandewart [ Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | veneering question |
Hey everyone, I have a veneering quandary I'm hoping to get answered by you pros. How would I go about slapping a burl veneer on a dome topped instrument? The instrument in question is an ibanez sabre series I am retopping with a nice walnut burl veneer. Flat top-easy. I'm worried about a domed top, though. Will I get wrinkles around the waist, or will the veneer "stretch" over the highest point (bridge area) to allow for a flat, wrinkle-less surface? Do I HAVE to use a vacuum set up, or is there a way to evenly disperse weights around the top? So many questions from the lurker.... Thanks in advance! |
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| Author: | Ziegenfuss [ Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: veneering question |
In my experience: 1. Vacuum setup is a must 2. You have to be skilled in working out potential wrinkle areas during vacuum application. If the top is too curved for the burl to distibute the stress / deformations easily, it will tear/ wrinkle. It is a difficult thing. The first time I tried to do this, I ended up sanding the top off and laying on a full 0.5" of the wood I wanted in order to recarve the top. I have never turned back from that method. Let us know what you try! Stephen |
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| Author: | JohnAbercrombie [ Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: veneering question |
I've never done this, but if I were to try, I think I'd pre-treat the veneer with a 'softener' like SuperSoft II. It might help. I've done quite a bit of (flat) veneering as well as curved laminations, and I agree 100% with Stephen's comments. ![[:Y:]](./images/smilies/smiley20.gif "Thumbs Up") Cheers John |
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| Author: | Barry Daniels [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: veneering question |
Veneer has very little stretch. I think what you are proposing is not possible. When I make archtop plates with veneer, I cut "darts" at a few points around the lower arch to allow the veneer to conform to the plate. But this is utilizing a vacuum bag and a two part form. |
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