Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Tue Nov 26, 2024 2:36 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Re-seating frets
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:16 pm 
Offline
Walnut
Walnut

Joined: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:18 am
Posts: 2
City: Toronto
Country: Canadia
Focus: Repair
Status: Amateur
Hello! newbie to the forum here!

One of my friends asked me to take a look at his 7 string Shecter.

The saddles of his Floyd Rose special had some really really bad burrs in them and somehow they broke 5 of the 7 strings at once when he was doing a little flutter. He uses a set of 13-56 in D standard tuning with a 65 as the low A

As a result of that massive release of tension from 5 strings breaking at once, frets 2-6 or thereabouts kinda came unseated from the fretslots, on the treble side.

I tried clamping them down to no avail, then I finally heated them up with an iron, and hammered them back in. That worked pretty much, except for frets 2, 3 and 4, which are still lifting out at the very edge on the treble side.

The fret tang doesn't extend all the way to the edge of the fretboard, it's been undercut, which I assume is why it's being so difficult.

Anyone have any ideas how I can get that last little bit right down to the fretboard?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Re-seating frets
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:05 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:15 pm
Posts: 529
First name: Mark
Last Name: Sorrentino
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Well, you could re-fret it. Sounds like it was poorly done in the first place and would be a major improvement.

_________________
http://www.tinyhouseandland.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Re-seating frets
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:38 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:04 am
Posts: 5822
First name: Chris
Last Name: Pile
City: Wichita
State: Kansas
Country: Good old US of A
Focus: Repair
Status: Professional
Before refretting the whole neck, you might try gluing the fret ends down with the tiniest drop of CA - clamp the fret down, and then wick some water thin CA in. If you do it right, you won't even need to do much cleanup of the fretboard.
Good luck!

_________________
"Act your age, not your shoe size" - Prince


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Re-seating frets
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:08 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:15 pm
Posts: 529
First name: Mark
Last Name: Sorrentino
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
^He's the expert, I'd try that first.

_________________
http://www.tinyhouseandland.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Re-seating frets
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:35 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:04 am
Posts: 5822
First name: Chris
Last Name: Pile
City: Wichita
State: Kansas
Country: Good old US of A
Focus: Repair
Status: Professional
Quote:
^He's the expert, I'd try that first.


I wouldn't go that far.... but I've done it a lot.

_________________
"Act your age, not your shoe size" - Prince


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Re-seating frets
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:53 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:08 pm
Posts: 1958
Location: Missouri
First name: Patrick
Last Name: Hanna
State: Missouri
Country: USA
I've done the CA thing on a few fret ends of my own guitar. Push the fret end down with a screwdriver on top of the fret. If it goes down, you're in business. Release the pressure. Put a drop of CA on the end of the tang, and press down for about a minute. Move on to the next high fret and repeat the process. Use thin, watery CA for this purpose (you are probably aware that it comes in a range of viscosities). Be careful not to glue your screw driver to the top of the fret. A drop on the TANG is all you need, and you will see it wick in immediately. You'd better be ready to push down immediately when you see that happen, because you only have a few seconds to press the fret home.

Then, of course, see if you can fix the problem that caused all those strings to break all at once. Maybe it is, indeed, the saddles, but I'm guessing your friend was giving it much more than a "little flutter." But I could be wrong and I'm not here to judge your friend. I'm just sayin'.........


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Re-seating frets
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:00 pm 
Offline
Walnut
Walnut

Joined: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:18 am
Posts: 2
City: Toronto
Country: Canadia
Focus: Repair
Status: Amateur
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I'll have a go at the CA glue.

As for the saddles, yeah, they were really torn up. After closely inspecting the string grooves, I noticed that most of them had been worn down pretty much to the point where the string locking inserts were having little to no effect on the strings. I replaced them with Original Floyd Rose saddles. It's amazing how soft the alloy is on the Floyd Rose Special saddles.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Re-seating frets
PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:00 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:21 am
Posts: 668
Location: Philadelphia
First name: Michael
Last Name: Shaw
City: Philadelphia
State: PA
Zip/Postal Code: 19125
Country: USA
Focus: Repair
Status: Semi-pro
Use a paste wax on the fretboard besides the actual frets before wicking in thin CA. The paste wax will prevent the ca from sticking where you don't want it making for less work.

_________________
Another day, another dollar.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 50 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com