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How are they playing? I'm sure you'll cut a few tracks...

Holy! I just noticed that the inside of the pickup rings PERFECTLY match the outline of the P-Rails. You have way too much time on your hands Stuart. But it is classy

Wait a tick... are you saying that the chrome covered pickups are actually just plastic bobbin pickups and that the ring has the cover inclusive?!
Chris

Thanks guys,

Question.

The red one has hardware with ebony inlay. I think if there's one thing that could have been an improvement, it would be to have made the fretboard in ebony. How many think that would have made a big differnce overall?

I'm now making some maple bodies and necks and I have some nice figured Claro Walnut to use as facings. That should be fun to play with as I now have a full compliment of Transtint dyes.

Not sure if an ebony fb would be an improvement, but I would definitely have the button inlays and fb match.

Dang Stu, beautiful work! [clap]

What's the weight difference between the two?

Are the little switches for coil split on each pickup?

Thanks for sharing.
Kevin Looker

I'm half thinking about creating some of these pickup rings for a Strat type setup and offer that as an option.

Zlurgh wrote:

I'm half thinking about creating some of these pickup rings for a Strat type setup and offer that as an option.

I've been trying to come up with a sane method for doing a single coil method like yours for a while now. Sort of torn between two options. I think this one is the best so far:

The other is maybe a plate underneath the pickup mounted to the body. It would be tapped for the screws. Only thing I don't like about that idea is the springs might be problematic to get in place. Anyway, I like how clean yours are and it's nice to know that it can be done. Guitars are pretty nice, too.

Author:	Stuart Gort [ Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:33 pm ]
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These are two guitars that were built from the same billets and boards for every component....except the red one is a solid body and the smoke one is highly chambered. I'm still troubling over color in my photos but the one of the back of the red guitar is pretty accurate as to color...it's a DEEP wine red. I just got the aluminum bridges on today so I'm calling this design completely finished. Note the hardware all being silver sorta brings the whole visual together. Check out the pickup rings on the red one. A little different from the P-Rail rings....and highly polished. I thought that turned out well. Plus I don't think I posted pics of the truss rod cover yet....so those are new as well. Woods: Bookmatched Local Curly Maple facings....body and headstock are from the same board Bookmatched Sapele body Cocobolo fretboards Sapele...Peruvian Walnut...Hard Rock Maple necks Position markers are Maple and Toasted Maple Logo is Wenge, Toosted Maple, and Bloodwood Pickups are Seymour Duncan P-Rails in the smoke guitar and Seymour Duncan SH2N Jazz and SH1B 59 in the red one.

Author:	Stuart Gort [ Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:35 pm ]
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and...

Author:	Stuart Gort [ Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:28 pm ]
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Filippo Morelli wrote: How are they playing? I'm sure you'll cut a few tracks... http://www.recordingproject.com/bbs/vie ... hp?t=40374 I linked to this before...this track was played on the red one. The last four all play very well. The real trick for me turned out to be a studly aluminum caul for gluing the fretboard to the neck. When the neck comes out of the caul the fretboard surface is straight as an arrow...and the action is pretty low.

Author:	Stuart Gort [ Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:36 pm ]
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verhoevenc wrote: Holy! I just noticed that the inside of the pickup rings PERFECTLY match the outline of the P-Rails. You have way too much time on your hands Stuart. But it is classy Ya...that was a lot of work....but classy is what I was shooting for so.....good! I'm sending these pics to Dimarzio. They wanted to see the rings I described that would fit over the chrome capped pups.

Author:	cphanna [ Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:54 pm ]
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I'm not very knowledgable about solid body axes, but they sure look wicked cool to me, and I'm not kidding! I particularly like the red one. It might not play any better than the other, but WOW it's gonna have some stage appeal! Patrick

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Author:	Stuart Gort [ Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:21 pm ]
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verhoevenc wrote: Wait a tick... are you saying that the chrome covered pickups are actually just plastic bobbin pickups and that the ring has the cover inclusive?! Chris No....but ??...not 100% sure what you're asking. You're looking at Seymour Duncan pickups with standard chrome covers which are epoxied into the polished rings that I made. Look at the close-up of the red pic; "tight fret & pup red"....you can see the gap between the ring I made and the chrome cap. The whole solid assembly is held into the cavity...and adjusts up and down by the two screws under a spring load.

Author:	Tony_in_NYC [ Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:01 am ]
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Beautiful guitars! What else can I say?

Author:	RogerC108 [ Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:15 am ]
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double post

Author:	Robbie_McD [ Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:32 am ]
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Spectacular! Really creative, great pix!

Author:	Chris Pile [ Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:56 am ]
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The red one is the TITS, man! Ya done good.

Author:	Stuart Gort [ Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:52 pm ]
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Thanks guys, Question. The red one has hardware with ebony inlay. I think if there's one thing that could have been an improvement, it would be to have made the fretboard in ebony. How many think that would have made a big differnce overall? I'm now making some maple bodies and necks and I have some nice figured Claro Walnut to use as facings. That should be fun to play with as I now have a full compliment of Transtint dyes.

Author:	RogerC108 [ Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:14 pm ]
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Not sure if an ebony fb would be an improvement, but I would definitely have the button inlays and fb match.

Author:	Sandywood [ Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:58 pm ]
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Zlurgh wrote: Thanks guys, Question. The red one has hardware with ebony inlay. I think if there's one thing that could have been an improvement, it would be to have made the fretboard in ebony. How many think that would have made a big differnce overall? I'm now making some maple bodies and necks and I have some nice figured Claro Walnut to use as facings. That should be fun to play with as I now have a full compliment of Transtint dyes. Beautiful guitars. I think an ebony fretboard would look very good and helped tie-in the truss-rod cover which is the only thing I see that I don't care for...it draws my eye to it. JMO about a very small detail.

Author:	WudWerkr [ Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:26 pm ]
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Absolutely Beautifull ! Mannnnnn I wanna build like you when I grow up !

Author:	Lavrov Guitars [ Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:50 pm ]
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I got to see these babies in person and they're even better looking than online. Those knobs are really sweet. Just everything about them is really sweet, keep 'em coming Stu

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Author:	VirgilGuitar [ Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:12 pm ]
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Holy Guacamole Stuart! THESE ARE SCHWEEEEET! I think an ebony fretboard would not go with the 2nd one but maybe the 1st one - I'm going for Ebony FB's on the next 3 builds... awesome work, great eye for detail. If you and I built a guitar together, it would never be finished!!

Author:	Don Williams [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:24 am ]
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Wow! Those are nice! (bump)

Author:	StevenWheeler [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:39 pm ]
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Nice work Stu, I'm digging those bridges a lot. So when are you going to start making your own tuners and fret wire?

Author:	Tony_in_NYC [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:13 pm ]
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RogerC108 wrote: Not sure if an ebony fb would be an improvement, but I would definitely have the button inlays and fb match. I have to agree with Roger on this. That is the only thing I would change. I have come back to look at these a few times already. Really great looking guitars.

Author:	klooker [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:44 pm ]
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Dang Stu, beautiful work! What's the weight difference between the two? Are the little switches for coil split on each pickup? Thanks for sharing. Kevin Looker

Author:	Chameleon [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:13 pm ]
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I like the blonde one very much. Super sleek design. Good work.

Author:	Stuart Gort [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:34 am ]
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klooker wrote: Dang Stu, beautiful work! What's the weight difference between the two? Are the little switches for coil split on each pickup? Thanks for sharing. Kevin Looker Ya...the larger three way works just like a Les Paul and the small dip switches can select between either coil or both coils. When P-Rails are used the difference between single coils is pretty substantial. When using conventional humbuckers the big difference comes when going from humbucking to single coil mode and not so much when switching from one single coil to the other....there is only a slight difference between coils. I'm half thinking about creating some of these pickup rings for a Strat type setup and offer that as an option.

Author:	LC100 [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:16 pm ]
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Zlurgh wrote: I'm half thinking about creating some of these pickup rings for a Strat type setup and offer that as an option. I've been trying to come up with a sane method for doing a single coil method like yours for a while now. Sort of torn between two options. I think this one is the best so far: The other is maybe a plate underneath the pickup mounted to the body. It would be tapped for the screws. Only thing I don't like about that idea is the springs might be problematic to get in place. Anyway, I like how clean yours are and it's nice to know that it can be done. Guitars are pretty nice, too.

Author:	Stuart Gort [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:29 pm ]
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LC100 wrote: Zlurgh wrote: I'm half thinking about creating some of these pickup rings for a Strat type setup and offer that as an option. I've been trying to come up with a sane method for doing a single coil method like yours for a while now. Sort of torn between two options. I think this one is the best so far: The other is maybe a plate underneath the pickup mounted to the body. It would be tapped for the screws. Only thing I don't like about that idea is the springs might be problematic to get in place. Anyway, I like how clean yours are and it's nice to know that it can be done. Guitars are pretty nice, too. The plastic flanged base on a normal Strat pickup is a problem. On some models that frontal area is used to anchor the wiring. On others, the wiring pokes straight out of the bottom of the pickup. To make these rings I need the later. I'll grind off the plastic flanged base and design the mounting and height adjustment capability into the new ring...like I did with the humbuckers. The idea is to have a form fitted cavity in the body in which to mount the ring.