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Author:  Fred Tellier [ Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:06 pm ]
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Just completed an Octave Mandolin with Adirondack top and Quilted Mahogany back and sides and a Bouzouki with Bear Claw Sitka and Bubinga.

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Author:  johnparchem [ Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:23 pm ]
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Very nice looking instruments!

Author:  Chris Pile [ Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:41 pm ]
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Ya done good, Fred~!

Author:  Doug Balzer [ Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:16 pm ]
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Love it!

Author:  unkabob [ Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:14 pm ]
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Very nice.
Was the pin-bridge difficult? I figured that a tail-piece was much simpler.

Bob :ugeek:

Author:  Fred Tellier [ Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:59 pm ]
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Pin bridges are no more problem than on a guitar but 2 extra holes to ream. I went pin bridge as I wanted a louder instrument for acoustic sessions and all the tail piece Zouks are somewhat quiet. The bodies are also 4" deep at the butt giving a result more like the Guitar shaped Zouks but looking traditional.

Fred

Author:  unkabob [ Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:25 pm ]
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Thanks Fred.
I built a mandola with tailpiece ( 18.75" scale and tuned DAEB) and the sound disappears among the guitars but it sounds good with a singer. It's too mellow. I have another in process that is one inch deep that I hope will have more bite.

Bob :ugeek:

Author:  cphanna [ Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:28 pm ]
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Woof! So very nice! I'm drooling--and I don't even know how to play either of these instruments.

Author:  rtpipkin [ Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:14 pm ]
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Awesome!

Author:  Quine [ Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:53 pm ]
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Great looking pair. What scale lengths do you use?

Author:  Darryl Young [ Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:18 pm ]
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Nice!

Do they sound similar?

Author:  Fred Tellier [ Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:16 pm ]
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The scale length of the Octave Mandolin is 22.5 and the Bouzouki is 24.9 and yes they sound very similar to each other though the wood choices do change the sound a bit. The OM will have heavier strings next string change to get the tension closer to the Bouzouki. Both bodies are the same general size and bracing except that the OM length has been shortened to keep the bridge in the same location with the neck attached at the 14th fret.

Fred

Author:  MaxBishop [ Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:39 am ]
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As always, great looking instruments, Fred.

Congrats,
Max

Author:  Graham McDonald [ Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:57 pm ]
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Very tasty

Author:  Fred Tellier [ Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:36 pm ]
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Graham I was inspired by your book. I did not exactly follow your plan but got inspiration and ideas from it. Thanks for writing it, I now also have your Mandolin book just in case I decide to do a Mandolin.

Fred

Author:  Alex Kleon [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:44 pm ]
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Nice looking duo, Fred!

Alex

Author:  bftobin [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:09 pm ]
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+1 for Grahams book. Loved Fred's examples so much I ordered the book, and it's great.

Author:  Jim Kirby [ Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:59 pm ]
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Very nice Fred.

Given the similarities in the instruments, what is your take on how one chooses between the two?

(A nod to Graham for his book too - I have one sitting incomplete in a form that has been there for a number of years, since I can't keep up with even the minimal number of guitar requests that I have.)

Author:  Fred Tellier [ Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:37 pm ]
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Given the similarities in the instruments, what is your take on how one chooses between the two?


The shorter scale length of the OM makes playing melodies a bit easier as far as finger stretching but requires a heavier string gauge to get a decent volume level. The Bouzouki is a bit shorter scale length than most use at 24.9" so is also not that uncomfortable to play and has more power in am acoustic jam. I personally have been playing the OM a bit more than the Bouzouki, but both work well for what I play which includes both melody and backup as needed at the Celtic sessions I attend.

The worst thing about these instruments is my guitars are getting very little playing time these days.

Fred

Author:  Ken McKay [ Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:08 am ]
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those are so nice Fred!

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