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| Author: | gxs [ Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Any tips for tinting shellac |
Shellac French polished, is by far my favorite finish. One problem I am facing is when I want to stain a piece darker, the French polish process is rubbing out the stain. Has anyone tried tinting shellac, I want to go darker than Garnet shellac. If so, what did you use for the tint? Also, are there better ways to accomplish this? Thanks. GS |
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| Author: | B. Howard [ Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Any tips for tinting shellac |
I have used Behlens Solar lux to tint shellac with good results. I would thin k any alcohol based aniline dye would also work. |
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| Author: | Bobc [ Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Any tips for tinting shellac |
Trans tint from Stew Mac works |
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| Author: | mike-p [ Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Any tips for tinting shellac |
I've dyed and sprayed shellac with success. |
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Any tips for tinting shellac |
I've used the Stew Mac stuff too, works great. |
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| Author: | gxs [ Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Any tips for tinting shellac |
Thanks fellows, I'll order some up and see how it goes. I am guessing a pitfall to watch out for is uneven coat. I learned this French polishing light wood with garnet. I ended up with darker areas that I needed to sand out. I haven't had much luck with spraying shellac, and I kind of like the trance-like state I go into when using a pad  Regards, GS |
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Any tips for tinting shellac |
I never tried spraying it before but I like to brush on the first two coats to get a head start on the FP process. Are you restoring something though? Or is this a fresh build or refinish that you are trying to match color? |
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| Author: | gxs [ Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Any tips for tinting shellac |
jfmckenna , It is a restore / learning project. I got this pile of parts to try a few things out. I had an Oahu K71 that someone had tried to convert to a round neck using what looked like A pen knife, so I got this Oahu to practice neck carving with a spoke shave. It came out as a nice C shape, so I had the nerve to fix the K71, which came out great. A friend mentioned he wanted a starter guitar for his son, so I told him if I could put this birch-ie back together and it came out okay he cold have it. Attachment: OahuBefore.jpg I think this is from the 1930's. It is a 13" birch Oahu, so probably never great. The top and back looked like potato chips. I was able to flatten the back but the top was cracked in many places and generally in bad shape, so I took the opportunity to make a new top. I braced it like an x-braced Stahl (laminated x and tone bars). Unfortunately, the low tack tape I used to put the binding on was still a little too tacky so I blew what was left of the back finish, so I stripped it and intend to stain then tint it very dark.  Not a preservation project at all, just an attempt to try some ideas out on something that otherwise world have gone in the scrap bin. Here is a work in progress shot, cedar top and binding and some amber shellac applied to the top: Attachment: OahuInProgress.jpg If it comes out okay, I am going to donate it to a friend as a starter guitar. Thanks for the tips everyone. Regards, GS |
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| Author: | fumblefinger [ Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Any tips for tinting shellac |
Jeez, I love rescue stories. Good for you! |
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| Author: | gxs [ Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Any tips for tinting shellac |
I know how you feel. I loved reading JF's S.S. Stewart thread and the recent icr L-50 thread. Brian has a recent ES 125 or 225 cliff hanger that was fun to watch. They are like soap operas to me, but they always have a happy ending. When someone starts a new one I always think, humm, this one looks good, make some popcorn, and ponder how all the repairs will get done |
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Any tips for tinting shellac |
That's great! The top looks awesome too. Rescue stories are the best. You are kind of like a surgeon bringing life back to the patient 
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| Author: | gxs [ Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Any tips for tinting shellac |
This worked great. Thanks gang Have a look. The back photo is a little bleached by the flash, it is a bit darker black cherry and looks great in room light. Here are a few pics. Attachment: WP_20160216_13_19_10_Rich_LI.jpg Looks like a poplar neck. Attachment: WP_20160216_13_18_21_Rich_LI.jpg Birch back. Thanks again. GS |
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| Author: | gxs [ Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Any tips for tinting shellac |
I'm letting the shellac harden up and I'll polish it in a few weeks and then it is done. It sounds pretty nice for a 13". I braced the top mostly following the plans I have for a Stahl #6. I laminated with a strip of ebony between two pieces of cedar left over from the top to make the braces. Thanks for the tips. Attachment: oahuAfter.jpg GS |
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Any tips for tinting shellac |
Sweet! Now play it till your fingers bleed! |
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