Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Mon Apr 21, 2025 9:28 pm


All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:01 am 
Offline
Mahogany
Mahogany

Joined: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:49 am
Posts: 88
Location: United States
I want to make 5-7 spruce tops classical guitar bodies for experimental purposes. (lattice bracing and French polishing) I don't care how it looks as long as it is stiff enough to simulate good tonewood.

Any ideas where I can get wood super cheap?

TFL


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:07 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2004 5:02 am
Posts: 8553
Location: United States
First name: Lance
Last Name: Kragenbrink
City: Vandercook Lake
State: Michigan
Zip/Postal Code: 49203
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Hi Jim - welcome to the Luthiers Forum!
Id try emailing any of the wood vendors here a the OLF, I know AC woods usually has a nice sale on the tops, I picked up some engelmann HAA tops for 12 bucks each IIRC -- You might be able to get them cheaper if your not concerned with cosmetic flaws -

_________________
Support the OLF! Bookmark our STEWMAC link Today!
Lance@LuthiersForum.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:47 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:46 am
Posts: 1315
Location: Branson, MO
First name: stan
Last Name: thomison
City: branson
State: mo
Zip/Postal Code: 65616
Country: united states
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
I would suggest colonial I got some tops and at time looking for as inexpensive as possible. Really nice stiff top were sent. I would just ask some of the dealers on this site, but can't go wrong with steve


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:57 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:47 am
Posts: 117
Location: United States
I ordered some very inexpensive tops to practice on from Robert Tibbets. I believe it was 10 for $45.00. His website is http://www.guitarwoods.net. Of course they weren't great but they were better than I expected and were perfect for learning on.

Joe VolinJoe V38455.8744328704


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 12:16 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:41 am
Posts: 457
Location: United States
He has a lot of tops on ebay. I bought quite a few spruce and red cedar for very chea and they aren't bad. He also sells lower grade kerfing as well


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:49 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:53 am
Posts: 320
Location: United States
First name: Scott
Last Name: Thompson
AC Woods has $8.00 spruce tops. 10% volume discount for 5 sides and Lance posted elswhere a 10% OLF discount. That makes 'em about $6.50 a top. Scott Thompson38456.0343402778

_________________
Scott Thompson
Port Townsend,WA

"In a perfect world we'd all sing in tune
But this is reality so give me some room"
-Billy Bragg


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:52 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:25 pm
Posts: 2749
Location: Netherlands
I wouldn't skimp too much on the tops. Get them from a good supplier, and explain what you're looking for (tops that feel and sound good, but don't look the part). I'd probably get some Italian Grade II stuff from Rivolta, since I'm Euro-based, runs about 12 dollars each, or even grade III, at 5 bucks or so. The grade 3 I ordered to practice planing down was v. v ugly (gray streaks, etc.) but was dead-on perfectly quartered, no run-out, very stiff, all the rest of it.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:08 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2005 1:26 am
Posts: 2556
Location: United States
I agree with Mattia, if you want your experiments to be accurate, you're
going to need to build with something that resembles good wood. No
sense in putting on a yucky, floppy top that you have to leave extremely
thick. Call the usual supspects and tell them what you want. I'm sure
pretty much everyone has some good quality beit ugly tops laying around
that they would let go for a song.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:46 am 
Offline
Mahogany
Mahogany

Joined: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:49 am
Posts: 88
Location: United States
Thanks for the responses.

And thanks for mentioning kerfing - my stock of kerfing (and bracewood!) needs attention.

I will do some shopping this weekend.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:59 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:50 pm
Posts: 3933
Location: United States
I'll third the notion of using acoustically good tops for experiments. It's hard enough figuring this stuff out without handicapping yourself.

Larry Stamm sells billets at a good price, if you can do your own resawing. I bet if you told him it was for R&D purposes he'd find something that would sound good ad be cheap too. Then you could have four or five tops that were as close to identical as possible. With a little attention to testing beforehand (look up Dave Hurd's book) you could _really_ check out the influence of the bracing pattern.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 1:10 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2005 2:16 pm
Posts: 244
Location: Lookout Mt. Georgia, USA
Alan, How would one contact Larry Stamm about the billets?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 2:04 pm 
Offline
Mahogany
Mahogany

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:33 am
Posts: 89
Location: United States
I needed some cheap tonewood for some R&D and took the advice on Robert Tibbets. It was 5 tops 4 $45 bucks. It was about an hour before a deadline he had posted for shipping (vacation?) and he still sent me the tops. They are what I had hoped for . . . cosmetically poor, but very well quartered, no knots, only one with a pitch pocket; couldn't ask for more at the price. Got it from NY to MD in a day.

I'm new to this forum. Just reading keeps me too busy to post, but Bob's service was too good not to comment on and I want to be sure not to get removed due to inactivity.

--Mark

_________________
Mark Joy

mjoy Guitars


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 2:31 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:35 pm
Posts: 257
Location: United States
Larry Stamm

didn't quite figure out his prices though


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 14 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com