Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:56 pm


All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 50 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:55 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:42 pm
Posts: 565
Location: United States
This one is off to London, so it has to be shellfish free and simple. I did it. No mollusc shells anywhere other than the fingerboard dots. (By request) It hurt






ITs a short scale 12 fret, tapered, slope shouldered jumbo with a sound port. Body is honduran rw, the top is lutz, binding bloodwood, Bridge is A.blackwood, all other black wood is ebony.

This may be the best sounding guitar I have ever made. I am wondering if thats partly due to the sound port.

Thanks for looking
John


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:05 am 
Offline
Mahogany
Mahogany

Joined: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:33 am
Posts: 60
Location: Canada
Very nice....Going to make someone very very happy...I like the sound port thingy...Might give it a try later.....Larry


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:13 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:05 am
Posts: 9191
Location: United States
First name: Waddy
Last Name: Thomson
City: Charlotte
State: NC
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
I like it!  Bling free can be a good thing.  It is on this guitar.  Great look.    

_________________
Waddy

Photobucket Build Album Library

Sound Clips of most of my guitars


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:16 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:50 pm
Posts: 2711
Location: Victoria, BC
First name: John
Last Name: Abercrombie
Status: Amateur
John-
That's a great-looking guitar. I like the back (no center strip) and the simple end wedge and binding.
I've got some bloodwood binding and was trying to think what sort of colour sides/back it would look good with- you've definitely nailed one combo with yours.
And, of course, it sounds better because it isn't loaded down with bling!

Cheers
John


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:16 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:50 pm
Posts: 2711
Location: Victoria, BC
First name: John
Last Name: Abercrombie
Status: Amateur
Or if there is a center strip- it's subtle!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:42 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:17 am
Posts: 1937
Location: Evanston, IL
First name: Steve
Last Name: Courtright
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Love the rosewood and the headplate is nice and thick - boy that is cool.

_________________
"Building guitars looks hard, but it's actually much harder than it looks." Tom Buck


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:00 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:25 pm
Posts: 7202
Location: United States
[QUOTE=John K] It's a short scale 12 fret, tapered, slope shouldered jumbo with a sound port. Body is honduran rw, the top is lutz, binding bloodwood, Bridge is A.blackwood, all other black wood is ebony.
This may be the best sounding guitar I have ever made. I am wondering if thats partly due to the sound port.
[/QUOTE]

That might be part of the reason why you feel that way, but I would also venture to say that there are two other factors that may be at play, and they are the AB bridge, and the HRW body.
We know that the Lutz has terrific potential, but to me, there's nothing as good as a BRW or AB bridge, and HRW back and sides are also fantastic. It all makes for a terrific combination. (No, not *magical* for all you newbies and players...just a combo with great potential.)

The fact that John Kinnaird built it will help it reach that potential a lot.

Nice job John...even without the bling it's awful nice!

(confession: I too like the shell bling...to a certain degree)

_________________
"I want to know what kind of pickups Vince Gill uses in his Tele, because if I had those, as good of a player as I am, I'm sure I could make it sound like that.
Only badly."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:02 am 
Offline
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:49 am
Posts: 13386
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
First name: Hesh
Last Name: Breakstone
City: Ann Arbor
State: Michigan
Country: United States
Status: Professional
Superb John!!!!  I love it!!!!

Besides the sound port do you think that the Honduran Rosewood/Lutz has a lot to do with the great tone?  I think that this combo is beautiful and more then makes up for any lack of bling.

The bloodwood bindings really work well with it too.

Very nicely thought out and beautifully executed.  I am sure that someone in the UK is going to be absolutely thrilled.





Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:39 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:42 pm
Posts: 565
Location: United States
Thanks Mucho guys

Larry its not hard to do a sound port if its unbound. This is my first. Easy! Go for it.

John, You got it. No back stripe. My rationale is that I like the look of the book matching uninterupted by extraneous strips of wood. In reality I'm just too lazy to do it unless prodded.

Terry, Just for you



I did not post this picture because of the buffing compound accumulation in the slots that I didn't notice before I took the pic.

Don, I completely agree with you about the rosewood bridge and the HRW body. I think this is my first LUTZ top so I cannot speak from a depth of experience on that but there is lots of good press out there on lutz.

Hesh, I think so. HRW is every bit as good as Braz tonnally and really underappreciated as a great tonewood and a bargan to boot. I push it so wind up building with it a lot. I think I really like the lutz.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:42 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:29 am
Posts: 3840
Location: England
I was going to say the same as Don, it probably sounds so good because of who made it! Or of course it may just be that the shell was killing the tone on all of the others, maybe you've just found the secret to a great sounding guitar.

I certainly think that a soundport gives the player a better perspective of the sound the guitar is making.

So how long is the shipping going to take to get to me, it is me your sending it to, right John?

Great guitar as usual John, but then we expect no less.

Colin


_________________
I don't believe in anything, I simply make use of a set of reasonable working hypotheses.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:44 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:42 pm
Posts: 565
Location: United States
Terry, I forgot to add that those are waverley 3500 tuners with ebony knobs. What I am really proud of is the Santa Domingan Mahogany veneer covering the back of the headstock.   I got that stuff from an old woodworking friend (who has passed on to his reward) and he had it for just forever and would never part with it. He made beautiful furniture with Spanish Cedar cases veneered in this SD Mahog. Really pretty stuff. When he retired from furniture making he asked me if I wanted to buy some. I did.
There is not any stain at all on this mahogany, unlike the neck which does have a stain.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:51 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:42 pm
Posts: 565
Location: United States
Thanks Colin
   I was hoping you would have a look and give it your stamp of approval. I wish you could have a good look at it and maybe strum a few chords, but actually it is headed to Dennis C. of Good Acoustic and suposedly he has a buyer. You know with the devaluating dollar I am supprised that more shoppers from Europe and the UK are not checking out American instruments


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:02 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:43 pm
Posts: 1124
Location: Australia
First name: Paul
Last Name: Burns
City: Forster
State: NSW
Zip/Postal Code: 2428
Country: Australia
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Lovely looking guitar John.

I made a short scale 12 fret guitar with a lutz top and african blackwood bridge (tassy blackwood back and sides). Mine sounds fabulous. Perhaps its a great combination.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:09 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:29 am
Posts: 3840
Location: England
John, I'll give Dennis a call and see if he can let me know when he gets it so I can pop round and give it a go, but 'strum a few chords', I think not!

It's the same old problem with US guitars in Britain. If they don't have 'Martin' on the headstock, then they have to be really special to get noticed here.

If looking for a custom made guitar players here aspire to a George Lowden or a Sobell, then maybe Fylde or Northworthy or Benjamin or White. All good British makers and with known names. Also of course with overseas guitars there's the problem of warranty, so they'll normally have to be bought through an agent which again can increase the price.

I have a solution though, if say a dozen or so of the top builders on the forum, I'll PM you all, would send me one of their best guitars, to my spec, then I'll showcase them for you over here. Can't say fairer than that.

Colin

_________________
I don't believe in anything, I simply make use of a set of reasonable working hypotheses.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:13 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:53 am
Posts: 2104
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
First name: Anthony
Last Name: Zlahtic
City: Toronto
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
John I too suspect your skills had a greater impact on the tone of this guitar. Have you played many guitars with soundports before? I suspect this is also colouring your impressions.

Bling or no bling I love seeing your work...they are all good!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:28 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:40 am
Posts: 1900
Location: Spokane, Washington
First name: Pat
Last Name: Foster
State: Eastern WA
Focus: Build
<Just to show that I can do bling free>

Like we doubted that you could!

Beautiful work, once again, John. That guit speaks, just sitting there on the screen, bling or no!

_________________
now known around here as Pat Foster
_________________
http://www.patfosterguitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:38 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:19 am
Posts: 260
Location: United States
I am a big proponent of unblinging guitars - beautiful wood and beautiful work.

                    Peace, Paul


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:27 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:42 pm
Posts: 565
Location: United States
Thanks again guys
Hmm Colin
   Lets see, all I have to do is send you some guitars and then you will sell them for me. Sounds like you could be giving Dennis a little competition.
   I know what you mean about strumming. I actually have two of your lute pieces on my I-pod. Quite impressive.

Anthony this is the first guitar with a sound port I have ever played. I tried to decide if I could hear anything in particular from the port but really could not tell. I will say that this guitar sounded better than I thought it would. I was afraid that it was over braced and would need some sort of remedy. So, who knows, there are so many variables.



Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:10 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:18 am
Posts: 825
Location: Florida, United States
First name: Craig
Last Name: Lavin
City: Sunrise
State: Fl
Zip/Postal Code: 33323
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Professional


Beauty John! How's that OTHER one coming????

Craig

_________________
www.handcraftinlay.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:53 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:42 pm
Posts: 565
Location: United States
Lets see, sides are nearly all bent, just working on the cutaway part, top is braced, not carved, just braced, back is joined and ready for the back reinforcement. Coming along pretty well. I am taking pics. I'll send you some if I ever get off this forum and take care of business.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:56 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:25 pm
Posts: 7202
Location: United States
Craig, you mean the B&W ebony one? I'm dying to se that one too....

_________________
"I want to know what kind of pickups Vince Gill uses in his Tele, because if I had those, as good of a player as I am, I'm sure I could make it sound like that.
Only badly."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:35 pm 
JOhn, I love that shape--What is it exactly? I'd like to replicate it without the cutaway.


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:41 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:35 am
Posts: 1325
Location: Kings Mtn., NC, USA
First name: Bill
Last Name: Greene
City: Kings Mountain
State: North Carolina
Zip/Postal Code: 28086
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
John...wow, you continue to amaze. Beautiful guitar.

_________________
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:47 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:18 am
Posts: 825
Location: Florida, United States
First name: Craig
Last Name: Lavin
City: Sunrise
State: Fl
Zip/Postal Code: 33323
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
John get off this forum NOW!!





Me..

_________________
www.handcraftinlay.com


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 50 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 69 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com