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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:57 pm 
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I finally have my neck/heal blocks installed and sides profiled (25'/15'). I am now ready to glue my kerfed linings. I am using the "normal" triangular shaped linings. I have a bunch of the 1" binder clips from staples laying around and was thinking of using those. However, when I dry ran, they slipped off, and I am concerned they are not putting enough pressure.

I went to grizzly web site after reading archives. I am thinking of these:
http://www.grizzly.com/products/G8216

Any opinions if these would work?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:14 pm 
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They look good to me. I have similar ones that have the pivot jaws as well and I found that they're an improvement over cheap ol' clothespins...


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:19 pm 
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Yeah, I have about 100 at home, and they work perfectly. Bought them from the Pound Aisle in the local supermarket, 10 for a £1 (or 1.9999 US$) :D


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:02 pm 
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Lee Valley tools has the small spring clamps on closeout sale 10 for $3.75 - Also we used the spring clips in Frank Finnocchio's class and they are fine for fairly straight area. You can always use the old standby - wooden cloths pins with rubber band helpers. Martin guitar went out and bought every one that they could find locally when there was a rumor that they were not going to be made anymore. C.F. IV told that story on the factory tour I went on.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:12 pm 
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Glenn my friend I have been using a smaller sized binding clip (Gem clip) and they fit standard and reversed Kerfed linings perfectly and have ample clamping pressure. Occasionally they will mix with the Titebond that I use and I get some minor black marks on the kerfed linings. These marks sand right off though if you sand the kerfed linings.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:13 pm 
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I was walking through the local "Dollar Tree" store and saw a pretty good deal on similar clamps. I am sure they very similar in quality to Grizzly. The had (10) small ones for 1" for (4) 1" for $1. Had I not built a bunch of clips I would have purchased some.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:28 pm 
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Hesh wrote:
Glenn my friend I have been using a smaller sized binding clip (Gem clip) and they fit standard and reversed Kerfed linings perfectly and have ample clamping pressure. Occasionally they will mix with the Titebond that I use and I get some minor black marks on the kerfed linings. These marks sand right off though if you sand the kerfed linings.


I don't use these any more (I use 1" pony clamps now), but when I did, I found that if you put a strip of masking tape around the outside of the body and one on the linings it helps keep the marring and black off the body and the linings. It helped a lot in the clean up.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:33 pm 
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I used the binding clips too. I lined them with self sticking cork from a craft store. It comes in sheets like 12 x 12, or something. I'm out now, and really can't remember the size. It is thin cork though, only 1/16" thick, so it does not take up clamp space, to speak of.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:45 pm 
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Used those little plastic things for awhile and think they suck. Up to recent builds used cloths pin and extra rubber band on them and they work great. Like Brock now use the 1" pony clamps from K-Mart that cost .37 cent each. Hold better, not break and will last forever. Have now over a 100 of them.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:37 pm 
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John Hall turned me on to those multi-colored ones from harbor freight. 18 in a tube plus some bigger ones. 4 tubes at $4 a tube were enough to do a whole side at one time. Flexible, movable crawlers make them indepensible. At $4 tube, who cares if a few break (not seen that after one build). I used the few bigger ones on the tighter curves (4 per tube).

The ones posted by the OP look like the slightly larger version.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:50 am 
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ToddStock wrote:
Woodcraft carries them in tubes of 18 - 1" and 4 - 2" for $5. They can use a little extra spring pressure from a #64 rubber band or a short section of surgical tubing. Harbor Freight carries them for around $4 for the same number of clamps in slightly different colors.



Todd,

Do you thin the kerfing to accomodate the side braces? Or do you taper the side braces (or both)?

Mike


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:59 am 
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I've used the same bunch of plastic clips for my linings for the last 25 or so guitars, never had one break yet, they hold any shape lining perfectly because of the swivelling jaws. I have two sizes and use the heavier ones in places like the waist to get a slightly higher pressure, I wouldn't worry though if I only had the smaller ones. As far as I'm concerned they work just fine.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:57 am 
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I got tired of having the jaws brake after a few months of use so I switched over to 1” steel spring clamps. They are more expensive than the paper clips but work well on reverse kerf linings.
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