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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:38 pm 
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I've been using a binding jig but getting inconsistent binding jobs so I purchased a Schneider Gramil thinking that I could use it to mark the thickness and height of the binding on the body. I can see how it works on the side, but on the top it does not work good following the curves (this is on a concert uke). Seems to work fine on fairly straight edges like the butt. Any suggestions on how to use this tool? [headinwall]

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:52 am 
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Not sure I understand what is wrong, but, are you using the flat side, not the curved, of the gramil body when it is working on the top/back and scribing the side? A pic is better though:


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:55 am 
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Alex, the gramil is new and sharp. I'm talking about scoring the top side. I'm using the flat edge on outside curves, but it doesn't follow a consistent distance from the edge. Seems it would be better if the gramil had a concave side for outside curves.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:03 am 
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I think I got it. You are actually scoring the top plate, not the sides. And you can rock the gramil on the wider parts of the instrument. First, You need to make several very shallow passes. Just barely mark the wood. If you do not use the force, buts just lightly move the tool, you can also keep your hand relaxed but firm, and this way you will avoid rocking it. I am sure you'll get a hang of it soon. How about getting a cheap plywood guitar and practice on it. Bottom line is never ever force the tool. If you have to fight it, you are scoring too deep and or it is not sharp.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:27 am 
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Should I set the binding proud of the sides or a bit shallow. In the past I've been setting them proud, but when I sand down to the sides I've been getting inconsistent widths as seen from the top. Thanks for your help!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:07 pm 
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I'm on to it. Just took a bit of practice - as with all tools.

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