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I'm sorry, am I not posting the way you intended for me to do? Good thing you practice what you preach.

Oh no, you may post however you see fit.

I just thought it was funny that you put an already implemented idea on the forum for EVERYBODY to see (and copy) and then expected to claim some kind of exclusivity on it.



I find that most often, the reaction that is received is USUALLY the one deserved, in some way or another, with a few rare exceptions.

6 pages later, EVERYBODY has gotten what they deserved, including me, LOL!

Such is Le Vie en Forume...

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Why don't you try it and see?

I'm sure SOMEONE can step forward and abuse you if you like.

Any volunteers? Chris?



And it's "etiquette", not "adequate". You didn't GOOGLE!!!!

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Well, this is my first foray into the electric forum. Definitely a lot more gain and effects going on here! Cool designs!

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I was hoping you'd get the irony.
But basically, yeah, dont want my exact stuff replicated by anyone else. If that makes me "intimidated" or a dick, so be it. I offer tons of help and advice on here, I didn't keep going on the other thread because I said what I wanted to, don't really care to expand upon this topic, or the other in this thread. I feel this place is being policed by other posters to the point that it's really really died down from what it was when I first came here looking for advice myself. Seems all the ones trying to police others and arguing back and forth, aren't posting builds themselves. Having long threads full of Bull puckie bickering isn't a victory or reason to pat yourselves on the back.

"The immature man revels in such adulations. The mature man, however, celebrates not, for he knows that every victory is just a precursor to another fudge up test." - Christopher Verhoeven

I'm surprised no one has asked for details regarding the secret scale length. Aside from the fact you haven't described what the scale length is: what's the secret? What makes it superior to all other scale lengths?

For anyone planning to copy the inlay, I suggest adding the q-hyper-polarization to the waveform in memory of the apparent spirit of this thread. To the OP: Trademark could be a much better option to protect your inlay design, but only if you plan to enter the realm of mass production. Copyright will only protect the exact design as you executed it (which is great when protecting designs such as pc-boards) so even a slight dimensional change will clear anyone from infringing. Trademark will be nearly impossible for you to enforce because proving damages due to market confusion is nearly impossible for a person or company with 20 guitars to their name. You're much better off spending the money on wood and tools than lawyers, unless you are independently wealthy and just like pushing around commoners... If that floats your boat, then more power to you.

Any new pictures to offer aside from what we already saw months ago followed by a CAD rendering?

If I told you, how much of a secret would it be? Also, seeing as how I didn't start on this build until recently, I fail to see how you saw it "months ago". Anyway, how about you post a build of........anything?

To be fair Chris, one of them was a Kenny Powers quote, one of them yours.

Ummm... Because you posted the same pictures months ago? Along with a couple of newer ones that reveal almost nothing. By definition a trade secret is something that requires inside knowledge to duplicate, and generally the information requires a more complex tool than a ruler. At the risk of sounding arrogant, I don't believe anyone here will gasp with amazement if you announce that 25.4795" is the optimal scale length for a guitar regardless of string gauge and pickup placement. With all due respect, you're the one who has things to prove... I was personally involved in auditing the Gibson factory process after the flood and guiding Fender Mexico when the went through retooling last year. Yes, I'm planning to enter the manufacturing business soon, but my experience speaks for itself. Most recently I started working with a pickup company, owned by two engineers with advanced degrees, to help develop a new active pickup technology into a product.

Out of curiosity, has anyone stolen your designs before? Possibly before you even made the public aware of them?

Unless your response is coherent, I'm writing you off as a troll... which seems like a very safe bet at the moment. I was willing to follow your concepts, but I've seen far too many indicators suggesting you are mentally unwell (and I'm not joking.)

He might have seen it months ago in this thread maybe: viewtopic.php?f=10123&t=40795

There might be other threads.

For someone trying to keep secrets you sure seem eager for feedback..

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First, no, I haven't posted the same pictures. And I can guarantee that with a conventional ruler you will not be getting my scale length correct, again, something else you have wrong. And forgive me, you audited Gibson, and helped retool Fender, but havent entered manufacturing anything (read: I don't build).
As far as the pickup technology, seems there is no breakthrough on that front either, as again, you have no product to show.
Additionally, if you are going to comment on the wave form of an EKG reading of the heart, please learn what you are talking about. Which I get it, knowing what you are talking about doesn't seem to be a running theme in your replies to me.

And as far as calling people mentally ill trolls, remind me again, which one of us has been asked by an ex employer to put a disclaimer on everything they write on their facebook page? I understand the world of glue is a fast paced, controversial, and high traffic area, so it makes perfect sense for you (the person they let go) to post on their page to the point of where they have to ask you to do such things. Like a sane, non-bitter, and well balanced individual would.

Please, I rarely get feedback off these forums. I used to get feedback, but things like what have happened in this thread have really ensured the general consensus stays away.

True. Telling everyone to kiss your a$$ and suck your (profanity for the pee-pee organ) will have that effect.

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I have some feedback for you as a pure amateur that hasn't completed my first build. You come off as an arrogant d-bag who thinks that he has re-invented the wheel with incredible innovations that none of the rest of this community could ever figure out or comprehend. Your (copyright) fretboard design is pedestrian and I can speak on that as an artist with a bachelor's degree in art that knows design well. You are proud of your work, as you should be but there is a line between humility and egomania. To be clear I am suggesting that you fit the latter.

However, there are many people here whose design skills and luthiery skills eclipse yours tenfold and it seems that you are the only person that has not figured that out yet. So I would encourage you to keep posting pics of your build if you would like feedback, advice or you would just like other builders to see your work. However if in the future your posts and confrontative attitude lead to threads such as this, you may want to understand that your pompous, superior attitude is the problem and NOT that of the community.

As an amateur yet to complete a build that requires advice frequently I find that when I post a thread asking for advice I generally get at least 2-3 posts with various solutions within an hour. That has significant value to me and the posters/forum that you have nothing good to say about are responsible for that benefit. I can't recall a helpful post from you in any thread, anywhere on this forum. Perhaps you should start your own forum where you are god and the rest of your members are the truth seeking guitar building god worshippers. I think that may work out better for you but I can't guarantee that your membership rate will be as high as this forums' or for that matter even exist.

Todd, this dude is quoting Kenny Powers from Eastbound and Down. I hope he was making a joke because the show is entirely about a baseball players unjustified ego and how it ruins his life. To be fair it is a comedy and it is actually really funny outside of the context of this thread. However it seems to me that the OP is OLF's version of Kenny Powers personified.

Here's is a clip from the show for reference:
(Warning: profanity, but nothing that JEGuitars hasn't already said)

Hahahaha I almost just pissed myself.

You leave the goats out of this Mr. Stock! They never hurt anyone. And for that matter, neither has my unnatural love for them. Real or imagined.

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PMoMC

Where's Grumpy when you need him? I'm sure he would have plenty to say. LOL!!!

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I'm outside looking in, just farther from the window than most.

...except that, if one orders his life synchronized to the product of Hollywood, and "American Beauty" to be specific, you're spurning of said advance COULD lead to your own bloody murder.

In the words of William Munny, "It's a hell of a thing to kill a man. You take away all the goats he's got and all the goats he's ever gonna have." Don't do it, Jimmy.

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StuMusic

The Electric Guitar Forum hasn't seen this much action in YEARS.

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This reply pretty much proves you haven't researched any before you decided to take up arms. I not only have told people on this forum, in the most recent of times that their skills eclipse mine, AND I have offered helpful advice.
Your long reply, which was well put, but poorly planned thus falls on deaf ears. Perhaps in the future if you are going to have this sort of initiative, use it on a build, you have any questions, PM me.

Well done!

Yeah, there clearly isn't enough regular activity on the electric forum. I've never seen troll feeding like this before, and I fear it could drag on for weeks. Great job attempting to deflect my questions, by the way. It didn't help your case. I've built guitars (first scratch build was at age 15, you don't get to work with the big companies if you don't know how to at least build in the first place) and many other things, but we're talking about you.

So back to the topic of scale length: Have you invented a new form of measurement that would prevent me from determining it, and reproducing said scale using modern equipment? My CNC router is good to within ±0.0005" which is overkill for anything that makes a difference building guitars. I also don't use a traditional ruler for precision work. If I wanted to reverse engineer your scale length I could, it's not rocket surgery.

You never did answer my earlier question, about designs being stolen from you in the past. Is that why you're so hesitant to reveal any details? If so, who stole them? Are there any inventions we might have heard of?

Sorry that this is my first post. Just read this and had to chime in a little.

Here is that 'copyrighted' inlay design that I did years ago and the pics have been on my website for years.