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 Post subject: Em6000 leveling
PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:46 pm 
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I can’t find where I wrote the schedule down and the can doesn’t offer the information, but how long should I wait before doing a mid-finish level sand? I have 10 coats on at the moment and would like to level before applying more


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 Post subject: Re: Em6000 leveling
PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:57 pm 
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No need to wait more than 24 hours.



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 Post subject: Re: Em6000 leveling
PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:06 pm 
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Overnight is fine.

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 Post subject: Re: Em6000 leveling
PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:33 pm 
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J De Rocher wrote:
Overnight is fine.

Is there a point that is too long? I suppose fully cured is too long...


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 Post subject: Re: Em6000 leveling
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This is from the Target Coatings website:

"EM6000, as well as all other EMTECH™ topcoats, has a unique burn-in property that allows the next/following coat to melt into into itself and chemically bond into and onto the last coat that was applied. The EM6000 Production Lacquer offers 100% burn-in qualities that remain functional regardless of how long ago the last coat was applied. "

I've applied EM6000 on top of EM6000 about a year after the initial application with no problems.

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 Post subject: Re: Em6000 leveling
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J De Rocher wrote:
This is from the Target Coatings website:

"EM6000, as well as all other EMTECH[TRADE MARK SIGN] topcoats, has a unique burn-in property that allows the next/following coat to melt into into itself and chemically bond into and onto the last coat that was applied. The EM6000 Production Lacquer offers 100% burn-in qualities that remain functional regardless of how long ago the last coat was applied. "

I've applied EM6000 on top of EM6000 about a year after the initial application with no problems.

That’s actually pretty cool


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 Post subject: Re: Em6000 leveling
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:39 am 
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So after level sanding should I go about thinning it ? Would that help it lay down smoother?
My setup is a simple HF gun and compressor like Lichty uses in his awesome video .... it normally goes on dempled or at least not smooth and I have to sand that back, which is easily done I guess


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 Post subject: Re: Em6000 leveling
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I would recommend practicing with your spray gun until you can get a smooth coat. A dimpled surface (called orange peel) is often caused by excessive air.


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 Post subject: Re: Em6000 leveling
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Partial hijack here but how long do you then wait for final buffing?

I'm considering going to EM6000 after I finish my can of Mohawk.

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 Post subject: Re: Em6000 leveling
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The shortest I've waited is 18 days. Jay Lichty buffs after 14 days. Target says it can be buffed after 120 hours, but Jay said in his video on using EM6000 that it was not cured enough in that time for his liking. There's no harm in waiting longer than 2 weeks if it works for your schedule.

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 Post subject: Re: Em6000 leveling
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SnowManSnow wrote:
J De Rocher wrote:
This is from the Target Coatings website:

"EM6000, as well as all other EMTECH[TRADE MARK SIGN] topcoats, has a unique burn-in property that allows the next/following coat to melt into into itself and chemically bond into and onto the last coat that was applied. The EM6000 Production Lacquer offers 100% burn-in qualities that remain functional regardless of how long ago the last coat was applied. "

I've applied EM6000 on top of EM6000 about a year after the initial application with no problems.

That’s actually pretty cool


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Agreed! I didn't know that about EM. I gave up water base finishes a long time ago with the understanding that if someone solves the problems with water base finishes I might jsut try them again some day... Hmmmm.


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 Post subject: Re: Em6000 leveling
PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:34 pm 
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jfmckenna wrote:
SnowManSnow wrote:
J De Rocher wrote:
This is from the Target Coatings website:

"EM6000, as well as all other EMTECH[TRADE MARK SIGN] topcoats, has a unique burn-in property that allows the next/following coat to melt into into itself and chemically bond into and onto the last coat that was applied. The EM6000 Production Lacquer offers 100% burn-in qualities that remain functional regardless of how long ago the last coat was applied. "

I've applied EM6000 on top of EM6000 about a year after the initial application with no problems.

That’s actually pretty cool


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Agreed! I didn't know that about EM. I gave up water base finishes a long time ago with the understanding that if someone solves the problems with water base finishes I might jsut try them again some day... Hmmmm.

I’m no expert in comparison to others here... but I’ve finished 3 with it now, and imo it’s pretty great.


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 Post subject: Re: Em6000 leveling
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SnowManSnow wrote:
I’m no expert in comparison to others here... but I’ve finished 3 with it now, and imo it’s pretty great.


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Brushing or spraying?


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 Post subject: Re: Em6000 leveling
PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:31 am 
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I have been using EM6000 and have been very happy with it. I typically spray 4 or 5 sessions in a day about an hour apart and level sand the next day with 400 grit. I repeat as necessary. When I'm satisfied with the number of coats, I wait about 3 weeks, wet sand and buff out. I find it to be a very forgiving finish and the results very good.


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