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 Post subject: New from Old
PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:06 am 
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I watched this video last night. A piece done on what looked like a early romantic guitar, like the 1828 Stauffer I did. Friction pegs, but 8 strings. The 2 extra were like on a harp guitar. I don't think she ever played them. Just to bring depth to the sound?

The guitar sounds great.

I see today that it is an 1820 something French guitar, that was restored. She has light Daddario strings on it. Does Daddario make nylon strings?

https://www.rsmits.com/eINST-Mc.htm

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcy7E4uHYK8

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 Post subject: Re: New from Old
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Nice recording. Check 5:35, she does use one of the extra base strings.

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 Post subject: Re: New from Old
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Does Daddario make nylon strings?

Sure do, one of the most popular brands.

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The name catgut is confusing. There are two explanations for the mix up.

Catgut is an abbreviation of the word cattle gut. Gut strings are made from sheep or goat intestines, in the past even from horse, mule or donkey intestines.

Otherwise it could be from the word kitgut or kitstring. Kit meant fiddle, not kitten.


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 Post subject: Re: New from Old
PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:49 am 
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I knew they made Orchestral strings; the cello strings I bought are D'addario Preludes. At $50 or so, one of the cheapest sets for cello that has sort of decent reviews.
Really good sets are $150 and up.
I've only bought Aquila nylgut, and gut.

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 Post subject: Re: New from Old
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I watched this again just now because I got my ears cleaned out today by the dr.! Can hear with both ears, and better!
I noticed that she used both low strings.
She also has a large forearm rest on the instrument. Didn't notice that before. I've never seen that before. Have you seen anything like it?

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 Post subject: Re: New from Old
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Hi Ken,
Some of those arm rests are made similar to the chin rest on a violin, and serve the same purpose. They hold the player's chin/arm off the soundboard of the instrument and allow more of it to vibrate freely.
As they kept adding strings to the guitar they made what they called a contra guitar (a.k.a. Schrammel guitar). With some additional sound box development it became a Harp guitar.



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 Post subject: Re: New from Old
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In the photos of the head and bridge of the guitar, it seems pretty clear that the seventh string was added some time after the guitar was built. In the video, an additional 8th string has been added, and the bridge and peghead modified to accommodate it. I find the tone of the guitar charming--very different from a modern classical guitar sound. Here's an example of the same piece played on a modern (lattice braced double top with carbon strings) 6 string classical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2Yjid0FWQQ


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 Post subject: Re: New from Old
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It seems to me that the early guitar has a very deep, rich, lute-like sound. Completely different from the modern classical.
I did notice that he was using a forearm guard. The only two I've ever seen.

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