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Marcus

Post subject: Wood ID

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:19 pm

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Ok, my turn!

I bought a ton of wood from a local guy who cut it all up into guitar sets. It's mostly Black Walnut, Mahogany & cedar, but there are a few mystery sets that came with the stash. This is the first one.

My observations:
-Fairly dense wood; close to a rosewood(density)
-has these strange white streaks throughout
-I cant place the smell, bitter like IRW but not as spicy
-Easy enough to bend; lots of spring-back, though

I thought maybe a Teak at first, but it isnt oily at all.
A buddy of mine guesses Bolivian Rosewood/Pau Ferro (I disagree but it was better than my Teak guess)

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mountain whimsy

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:26 pm

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Looks very similar to some Chechen that I've used. Nice cathedral grain.

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DennisK

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:37 pm

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Could be Guatemalan mora (which is often mislabeled as Argentine osage orange)

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Bri

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:03 pm

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Reminds me of some Merbau we used on a remodel, specifically the white flecking

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Chris Ensor

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:15 pm

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Ovangkol

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klooker

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:54 pm

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Ovangkol, shedua,

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bluescreek

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:43 am

Brazilian Rosewood

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we need more info
what does it smell like?

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dzsmith

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:32 am

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I’m guessing Cebil (Curupay, Patagonian Rosewood).
I’m working with some now.
Very hard (3600).
Light color when sanded, turns dark fairly quickly when exposed to sunlight.
My plank has white mineral deposits.
Just my guess.

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A.Hix

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:09 am

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That is ovangkol. The white stuff is mineral deposits in the pores.

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Marcus

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:34 pm

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I've got a set of Ovangkol that I compared it to and it looks pretty different. Taking into account that trees of the same species can look very different, I wont rule out the possibility of it actually being ovangkol.

Here is a pic of it next to ovangkol (from Stewmac). The guitar has a coat of shellac on it, so it's pretty close to "finished" color.

I was unsuccessful in comparing the smells of these two woods. I think I might have to take a break from snorting sawdust, my sinuses have been sore for two days now.

Thanks to everyone who participated!

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Herr Dalbergia

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:13 am

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I would also say Ovangkol, flatsawn, but without seeing it in real life it is a bit difficlut to tell

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A.Hix

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:26 am

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100% ovangkol

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wbergman

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:47 pm

Koa

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Not disputing that the white in these pictures is mineral, but I had an occurrence that was white sap. I had a 2" board of teak resawn for a headboard. I presume the board was reasonably old. While sitting in my shop, white sap that looked pretty much like mineral deposits oozed out. It wiped off when I got around to using it. I do not recall if I just used water, or some other solvent.

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Mark Mc

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:52 am

Koa

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Markus, I think your last picture demonstrates really well the difference between flat-sawn ovangkol and quarter-sawn ovangkol

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Joe Beaver

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:23 pm

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I also agree with flatsawn ovangkol. The guitar is quarter sawn hence the difference

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